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silviu
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Having with and x_{n + 3}  = \frac{{x_{n + 2}^2  + 5x_{n + 1}^2  + x_n^2 }}{{x_{n + 2}  + 5x_{n + 1}  + x_n }}\forall n \ge 1
Prove that converge.
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Re: Converge(not easy)

silviu wrote:
Having with and x_{n + 3}  = \frac{{x_{n + 2}^2  + 5x_{n + 1}^2  + x_n^2 }}{{x_{n + 2}  + 5x_{n + 1}  + x_n }}\forall n \ge 1
Prove that converge.


is a weighted average of the with weights . This means that the (minimal) interval containing is shrinking, and that the ratios are bounded away from zero. If , with , and I = [a - \epsilon, b+ \epsilon], and we take a weighted average of 3 points in (at least one near , at least one near ) with any ratio of 2 weights larger than , then for sufficiently small (depending on ) this weighted average must lie in the interior of . From this we conclude that , i.e. .

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A better (more constructive) version of the same argument:
there exists some positive constant so that
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yes fleeting guest its called contractive sequences.They are Cauchy sequence & are hence convergent(R is complete)

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O sorry I am horribly wrong.The contractive sequences are those:

mod(xn+1 -xn) <= c*mod(xn-xn-1) where 0<c<1

Sorry for the mistake..

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The argument above does not show that is contracting, it shows . This certainly implies convergence, but in the above argument it is enough that (not necessarily geometrically). It would be interesting to prove directly that , if that is true.

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