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Tomekk
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Easy problem
Hello,
find all positive integers such that
is also a positive integer.
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:02 am
ernie
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We have to let be a factor of . So has to be a factor of . The only two factors of are . However, , because then would be undefined. Thus, there are no answers.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:56 am
mavropnevma
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Quote:
We have to let be a factor of . So has to be a factor of .
We can all do without such a piece of advice!
Since is a factor of , one will just try all (finitely not that many) cases.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:49 am
ernie
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Oh wow, that was a fail.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:19 pm
dragon96
Navier-Stokes Equations
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ernie wrote:
So has to be a factor of .
That's like saying because is an integer, then has to be one too.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:15 pm
grn_trtle
Navier-Stokes Equations
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ernie wrote:
has to be a factor of .
I think you realize this now, but that's not correct.
Solution
Adding one to all of these will give the potential answers
.
Subtracting one gives
Only
works, I think.
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:14 am
Tomekk
Hodge Conjecture
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Try also .
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:05 pm
cryax
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2010=2*3*5*67. in order to 2010/(n^2-1) is a positive integer, n^2-1 must be estimated number of 2010 with n is a integer so that n=4,2(n^2-1=15=3*5;n^2-1=3) is the right answer.
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:06 am
cenx
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I think can be factored as and the problem turns to sequentive odd factor hunt, at least we have less to worry about ^^
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:46 am
mathkid95
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The thing is, if you factor out the bottom to you get n cannot be 1.
Because 0 is neither negative nor positive, it cannot be counted. The statement,
Quote:
find all positive integers such that
restricts all the negative numbers.
Now that we have our limits, we know that n has to be a number that, after going through the , is a factor of 2010 because of the statement,
Quote:
is also a positive integer.
Just list out the factors of 2010 and get n using the
Please correct me if I made a mistake in any way.
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:58 am
Tomekk
Hodge Conjecture
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I am not sure if I understood what you said, but even if you dont factor you still get that cannot be 1.
In this problem, chasing isnt hard at all, since you dont have much options anyway. Solutions are and .
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:17 am
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