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a sangaku problem

Chords KN and ST are perpendicular to diameter CP of circle (O) at points Q and R. SQ intersects the circle in V. (K, S are on one side of CP, N and T on the other.) Let r be the radius of the circle (M) inscribed into the curvilinear triangle TQV. Prove that

1/r = 1/PQ + 1/QR.

In addition, it would be nice to have a short independent proof of the fact that r is independent of the radius of (O).

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The points P, Q, R, C have to follow on the line PC in this order. Let r > q be radius of the circle (O),

SR^{2} = PR \cdot RC = PR (2r - PR),\ \ r = \frac {SR^{2} + PR^{2}}{2PR}

The triangle \triangle STQ is isosceles and QN \parallel ST, hence QN bisects the angle \angle TQV. Let (M) be a circle centered on the ray (QN with radius q = \frac {PQ \cdot QR}{PR} and tangent to both QT and QV at X, Y. The right triangles \triangle QXM \sim \triangle SRQ are similar, QX = \frac{MX \cdot SR}{QR} = \frac{PQ \cdot SR}{PR}. Using Pythagorean theorem for the right triangle \triangle OQM,

OM^{2} = QM^{2} + QO^{2} = MX^2 + QX^2 + (PQ - r)^{2} =

= q^{2} + \frac {PQ^{2}\cdot SR^{2}}{PR^{2}} + PQ^{2} - 2r \cdot PQ + r^{2} =

= q^{2} + PQ^{2}\cdot \frac {SR^{2} + PR^{2}}{PR^{2}} - 2r \cdot PQ + r^{2} =

= q^{2} + PQ^{2}\cdot \frac {2r}{PR} - 2r \cdot PQ + r^{2} =

= q^{2} - 2r \cdot \frac {PQ \cdot (PR - PQ)}{PR} + r^{2} =

= q^{2} - 2rq + r^{2} = (r - q)^{2}

As a result, OM = r - q and the circle (M) is internally tangent to the circle (O). Given collinear points P, Q, R, the point S on a normal to PR at R is arbitrary, i.e., radius r of (O) varies, while q = \frac {PQ \cdot QR}{PR} does not.

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Re: a sangaku problem

Impressive. I saw all the right and similar triangles there are, but tried to get from OM = r - q through a chain of applications of the Pythagorean theorem to "q = something" and could not.

Thank you.

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Starting with OM = r - q, where q = MX,

(r - q)^2 = OM^2 = QM^2 + QO^2 = MX^2 + QX^2 + (PQ - r)^2\ \Longleftrightarrow

QX^2 + PQ^2 - 2r PQ + 2rq = 0.

Substituting QX = \frac {MX \cdot SR}{QR},

q^2 \frac {SR^2}{QR^2} + 2rq - PQ (2r - PQ) = 0.

Substituting SR^2 = PR \cdot RC, 2r - PQ = QC,

q^2 + 2rq\ \frac{QR^2}{PR \cdot RC} - \frac{PQ \cdot QR}{PR} \cdot \frac{QC \cdot QR}{RC} = 0

Substituting 2r QR = (PR + RC)(PR - PQ) = PR \cdot QC - RC \cdot PQ,

q^2 - q\ \left(\frac{PQ \cdot QR}{PR} - \frac{QC \cdot QR}{RC}\right) - \frac{PQ \cdot QR}{PR} \cdot \frac{QC \cdot QR}{RC} =...

The two roots of the quadratic are q = \frac {PQ \cdot QR}{PR} > 0 and q' = - \frac {QC \cdot QR}{RC} < 0. If (M), (M') are directed incircle and directed excircle of the curvilinear \triangle TQV in the angle \angle TQV, internally and externally tangent to the directed (O), then (M) has the same direction as (O) and (M') has the opposite direction. q > 0, q' < 0 are their radii.
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Thebault to the rescue

Using the two chords as bases of two triangles and completing it with the Thebault

circles, the circle in question is the common T-circle of both triangles.

The other T-circles have their centers on the diameter in known points.

The triangles incenters are on a line parallel to this diameter.

I conjecture that after applying T- formulas that inradius is a linear combination of

T-radii and incenter divides the distance between T-centers in the ratio

of ( tan X )^2, see

http://forumgeom.fau.edu/FG2002volume2/FG200223.pdf,


and after a couple of similar triangles and a lot of complicated multiplication

and division, the T-radii will be replaced by diameter segments of the big circle

and the result as required will be obtained.


I just do not have time now for it, and those SINs and COSs scare me a bit, sorry.



T.Y.
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Thebault to the rescue

Rescue ? If your life depended on the answer and you tried this:

armpist wrote:
Using the two chords as bases of two triangles and completing it with the Thebault

circles, the circle in question is the common T-circle of both triangles.

The other T-circles have their centers on the diameter in known points.

The triangles incenters are on a line parallel to this diameter.

I conjecture that after applying T- formulas that inradius is a linear combination of

T-radii and incenter divides the distance between T-centers in the ratio

of ( tan X )^2, see

http://forumgeom.fau.edu/FG2002volume2/FG200223.pdf,


and after a couple of similar triangles and a lot of complicated multiplication

and division, the T-radii will be replaced by diameter segments of the big circle

and the result as required will be obtained.


I just do not have time now for it, and those SINs and COSs scare me a bit, sorry.



T.Y.
M.T.


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