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Phoenix257
Poincare Conjecture
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I've done a lot of research about copyrights and "fair use", and I think i have the answer.
Math cannot be copyrighted. One cannot claim rights to the equation 2 + 3 = 5. The way a person describes math can be, however.
A single math problem cannot be prevented from entering the public domain, just like people cannot claim rights to the definition of the word "problem". You can cite the math problem under the fair use doctrine and use it in whatever way you want. However, a larger piece of work, such as the sprint round, can be copyrighted because it contains a unique set of problems that are designed to illustrate certain mathematical principles. The dictionary contains the definition for the word "problem"; one cannot reproduce an entire dictionary and trade/sell it to other people, but one can openly discuss the definition of the word "problem".
If a math club owns a copy of, say, the 2006 target round, that math club can openly use it for its own people under fair use. However, if that math club started to reproduce the 2006 target round and began to mass produce it, fair use would no longer apply. When arguing fair use, the nature of the action is also considered. By mass distributing the paper, your action supercedes MATHCOUNTS's selling the problems, and then they can hunt you down
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:48 pm
slamchess
Riemann Hypothesis
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Phoenix257 wrote:
I've done a lot of research about copyrights and "fair use", and I think i have the answer.
so if you sent just one page at a time, would this be illegal?
and people have known about Yasharbiz for a long time... Mathcounts hasnt taken action...
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:15 pm
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For goodness sakes! If something is beign used for monetary gain, it is not fair use.
Copyright Law, Section 107 wrote:
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright . In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include —
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes ;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.
What MC sharing is for non-profit educational purposes.
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:47 pm
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Yang-Mills Theory
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AoPS says that you may not post complete contests. Do not argue about it.
AoPS generally allows you to ask questions about individual problems. Be thankful.
There's a heck of lot of ground in-between and off to the sides. The more you insist on defining the line, the more risk that AoPS (or MATHCOUNTS' attorneys) will set the line in a place you won't like. [Did you read the part about being discreet. Please.]
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:20 am
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Navier-Stokes Equations
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Going even further. You can always ask on the forum like how to find the area of a rectangle when you know the diagonal length and the perimeter. This way you don't even have to post the problem.
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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:04 pm
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Does anyone have the answers for the target round 2006? I lost my answer key sheet for the target
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:48 pm
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Navier-Stokes Equations
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nats? pm me ur answers and I'll tell u if they're right.
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:36 pm
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Yang-Mills Theory
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Can someone give me the 2005 or 2006 National Sprints? (or targets?)
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:16 pm
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Isn't that illegal to trade those?
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:10 pm
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#H34N1 wrote:
Isn't that illegal to trade those?
Well then why did you pm me repeatedly asking for the 2004 nats target?
Don't give advice, and then not listen to it
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:19 pm
kstan013
Yang-Mills Theory
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bpms wrote:
#H34N1 wrote:
Isn't that illegal to trade those?
Well then why did you pm me repeatedly asking for the 2004 nats target?
Don't give advice, and then not listen to it
COVER-UP COVER-UP and hypocriticism
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:40 pm
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Okay. Okay. Sorry.
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:16 pm
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Navier-Stokes Equations
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so National Sprints for any year cannot be passed along? thts random...
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:18 pm
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Yang-Mills Theory
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I thought anuridh said as long as it's not for profit;
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/posting.php?p=758572&mode=topicreview&postorder=DESC#758572
I'm planning to learn from it, not sell it.
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:26 pm
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Does anyone have the 1986 National Sprint/Target?
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:15 pm
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Yang-Mills Theory
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what's in it for us?
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:21 pm
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I'll trade something you don't have...
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:23 pm
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ok. The meaning of life, 4 trillion dollars, the fastest computer possible, and free cable.
No, really. STOP asking us for national problems. Just buy them from the mathcounts catalog.
Can we trade answers? Nobody has said anything about answers. {I have the ats problems for (insert year here), but no answers for that year's nats.}
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:47 am
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The MC catalog doesn't have '86
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:59 pm
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Riemann Hypothesis
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#H34N1 wrote:
The MC catalog doesn't have '86
why would you want 86
they have 40 questions instead of 30 so they really dont help much
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