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haduyhung
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Vector method in geometry
Dear friends,
I am preparing some geometry problems in which we could using
vector method to solve them ie... Really i got about 30 simple problems and very few nice problems or hard problems[Special i do not have much such problems which appear in Olympiads].If you have any exprience about this please let me know!
Thanks in advanced!
Yours,
_________________ Ha Duy Hung,
Department of Mathematics
Hanoi University of Education,
Xuan Thuy Streat,
Vietnam.
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:49 pm
beata
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Here are two problems:
1. Prove that if in convex quadrilateral ABCD holds the equality
|AB|^2 + |CD|^2 = |BC|^2 + |DA|^2
then AC and BD are perpendicular.
2. Given a triangle ABC, over the sides AC and BC we construct squares. Denote the centres of these squares K and L, and D the centre of AB. Prove that the triangle KDL is right-angled and isosceles.
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 2:26 pm
Lagrangia
Navier-Stokes Equations
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here is a link where you may find some problems like that :
http://popacalin.tripod.com/calinpopa/geometry.pdf
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 1:52 pm
amfulger
Yang-Mills Theory
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1. Let A1, A2, A3, A4 be distinct points on a circle. Let Wi be Euler's nine points circle of triangle AjAkAl where {i,j,k,l}={1,2,3,4}. Prove that this circles meet at a point.
(you don't realy nead the 4 points to be on a circle, but you do need them on a circle if you want a nice vector solution).
2. It's odds on you know this problem:
Let A,B,C,D be distinct points on a circle centered on O, so that AC and BD are perpendicular, and let T=AC \cap BD.
Prove that 2*OT= OA+OB+OC+OD (vectors not segments).
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 11:40 am
Arne
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I am not fond of vectors... I don't think you can apply it very often. (Maybe it's a good idea to master complex numbers instead: they are more powerful than vectors but not much harder to work with.)
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:02 am
Ashegh
Yang-Mills Theory
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vecters are not so power full . but in some problems if u use them ,theproblems will solved very nice and soon. .
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:32 am
Ashegh
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for example:three trisngles ,in wich each one has equal sides(OAB,OCD,OEF).
X is the midpoint of FA.Y is the midpoint of BC.and Z is the mid point of ED.
prove that :triangle XYZ has equal sides.
try to solve it by using vectors .
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:36 am
Arne
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Yes, but it's even easier to prove that using complex numbers, so I think it is better to master complex numbers, rather than vectors.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:14 pm
Ashegh
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u are right Arne .
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:05 am
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But what about solid geometry?
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:29 pm
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Arne wrote:
Yes, but it's even easier to prove that using complex numbers, so I think it is better to master complex numbers, rather than vectors.
This is good book ''Complex Numbers from A to ...Z by Titu Andreescu , Dorin Andrica'' .
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:04 am
Fabiomr1
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Arne wrote:
I am not fond of vectors... I don't think you can apply it very often. (Maybe it's a good idea to master complex numbers instead: they are more powerful than vectors but not much harder to work with.)
But complex numbers applied to geometry are, in fact, generalizations of vectors which it's origin is the same origin of the graphic.
See, for example, when you have a complex number and want to rotationate it using the De Moivre theorem, you are in fact rotationating a vector that has it's origin on the graphic's origin and it's extremitiy in the complex number's afix.
The bad thing about complex numbers is that you have to have it in the origin and you can only work with it in 2D figures; vectors are useful in 3D space too.
Cheers
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:43 am
beyrem
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well i don't like solving geometry problems with vectors or complex numbers.....
but if you want, the first problem of the last imo con be solved with vectors..
it's a good example... i didn't solved it like that in spain but it could be done with simple vectors' manipulations ..
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:01 am
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Can anyone recommend a good book which teaches how to use vectors in geometry with a lot of Olympiad standard examples and exercises.
I think barycentrics are also a very good technique in solving many problems
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:52 am
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apratimdefermat wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good book which teaches how to use vectors in geometry with a lot of Olympiad standard examples and exercises.
I think barycentrics are also a very good technique in solving many problems
I think this artcle may be very interesting to you
http://www.math.ust.hk/excalibur/v6_n5.pdf
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:07 am
jayme
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Dear Mathlinkers,
I think that the tool "vector" can be used for solving every geometric problem involving lines and circles.
The knot is that the relevant technics are not clearly teach and named like the most important theorems in Geometry.
In my honest point of view, this space is very open for those who want to developp a personnal approach. I have investigated one time the marvellous space...
Sincerely
Jean-Louis
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:18 am
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