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The function f(x) is defined as follows.

f(x)=\left\{\begin{array}{cc}1\ \ \ \mbox{ if }\sin x\cdot\cos x \geqq0 \\0\ \ \ \mbox{ if }\sin x\cdot\cos x<0\end{array}...

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\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{1}{n}\sum_{k=1}^n \left|f(k+1)-f(k)\right|
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A first try (sorry if it's wrong: it's a quick mental computation): is it \frac 2{\pi}?

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I get 1 - \frac 2{\pi}. Is it correct?

Edit: oops, \frac 2{\pi}

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To grober and limpet:

Yes,the answer is \frac{2}{\pi}.How could you obtain it?

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Well, it's very similar to other problems posted here, one or two by you, if I remember correctly.

Since \pi is irrational, it means that the sequence \{n\} is uniformly distributed in (0,\pi), where \{\} is the fractional part "\pmod \pi", if I can say so Smile. The sequence represents the fraction of k's in \{1,2,\ldots,n\} for which \{k\},\{k+1\} are in different regions of (0,\pi), where one of the regions is (0,\frac \pi 2), and the other region is (\frac \pi 2,\pi). In order for this to happen, \{k\} must lie in (\frac \pi 2-1,\frac \pi 2)\cup(\pi-1,\pi). The length of this region is 2, and if we divide it by the length of the entire interval (0,\pi), we get the result.

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Thank you for your reply, grobber!

I see.I will show you the answer just to make sure.But my idea is almost same as grobber's one.

From the definition in question f(x)=1 if 0 \leqq x \leqq\frac{\pi}{2},\pi \leqq x\leqq\frac{3\pi}{2} and f(x)=0 if \frac{\pi}{2}<x<\pi,\frac{3\pi}{2}<x<{2\pi}.since 1<\frac{\pi}{2}, the condition such that |f(k+1)-f(k)|=1\cdots [1] is the existence of some natural numbers l which satisfies \frac{l\pi}{2}-1<k<\frac{l\pi}{2}\cdots [2].The width of this interval is 1,so k which satisfy is unique and k satifying [2] is one-to-one mapping to this interval. Now let \frac{(m-1)\pi}{2}<n<\frac{m\pi}{2}\cdots [3],according to whether n satisfies \frac{m\pi}{2}-1 <n or not ,the value of S_n=\sum_{k=1}^n |f(k+1)-f(k)| is m or m-1 which yields m-1\leqq S_n\leqq m.From [3], since we have \frac{2n}{\pi}<m<\frac{2n}{\pi}+1,we obtain \frac{2n}{\pi}-1<S_n<\frac{2n}{\pi}+1 i.e.\frac{2}{\pi}-\frac{1}{n}<\frac{S_n}{n}<\frac{2}{\pi}+\frac{1}{n}.Consequently by Archimedes'axiom the desired limit is \lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{S_n}{n}=\frac{2}{\pi}.

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I could find the solution posted by Kent Merryfield on Thu Dec 02,2004.
This is copy which is printed out.
Here is the solution.

The answer is 1-\frac{2}{\pi}.

Choose x_k \in\ [0,2\pi) such that k\equiv x_k\mod 2\pi. Given the irrationality of \pi, in the long run these x_k may be considered instances a random variable uniformly distributed on [0,2\pi). We have a random variable,a_ka_{k+1}, which depends on x and we are computing the expected value of this function.This function equals -1 if x\in (\pi-1,\pi) or x \in (2\pi-1,2\pi) and is 1 otherwise.So expected value of this random variable is \frac{1\cdot(2\pi-2)+(-1)\cdot 2}{2\pi}=1-\frac{2}{\pi}.

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