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Gyan
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Not really. You are not taking in account the fact that the procent of the population going to school is more or less closer to say 90% in all China, USA and Romania, but really really smaller in India.
The current figures for India are MUcH higher than you imply. There are few states (like Kerala - population larger than Romania) - where this percentage is even comparable/larger than US or Romania) (In any case, the actual number of people going to high school in India is much larger (about 3 or 4 times) than USA)
IMHO, in India NMO, IMO are not that popular, the best students look for JEE etc and a high rank in JEE will get you more fame than a gold medal in IMO. .. You don't get the best students interested ..Hopefully this will change and more bright students would be more interested in Math.
A little related I just read in a paper about current literacy figures (about 70%)
here. what is interesting that the figures were in 30% range when India got independence.(Even 1991 figures were in 50% range) What is even more important and nice is that in school going age these figures are much higher(close to 90% range depending on states) . In States like Kerala the figures (High 90%) are higher than, say USA.
BTW talkig about statistics - I read an article in Boston globe a few days ago sayinng something like -
"22 percent of the students at Quincy High School are Asian, yet they account for 94+%
of the math club" ..
Anyway any news about India's team in this IMO?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:46 pm
darktreb
Yang-Mills Theory
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Speaking directly from the source, I would be very surprised if the US got even 3 gold this year. Top 10 placement is probably in doubt as well. Everybody is decent, but too many points will be lost on 3 and 6.
As an interesting sidenote there was no perfect exam this year although the student with the 41 had a score distribution of 6/7/7/7/7/7
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:53 pm
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darktreb wrote:
Speaking directly from the source, I would be very surprised if the US got even 3 gold this year. Top 10 placement is probably in doubt as well. Everybody is decent, but too many points will be lost on 3 and 6.
As an interesting sidenote there was no perfect exam this year although the student with the 41 had a score distribution of 6/7/7/7/7/7
Will you bet me on this one? (I'd say at least 3 golds for US team ).
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:53 pm
Gyan
Navier-Stokes Equations
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Valentin Vornicu wrote:
darktreb wrote:
Speaking directly from the source, I would be very surprised if the US got even 3 gold this year. Top 10 placement is probably in doubt as well. Everybody is decent, but too many points will be lost on 3 and 6.
As an interesting sidenote there was no perfect exam this year although the student with the 41 had a score distribution of 6/7/7/7/7/7
Will you bet me on this one? (I'd say at least 3 golds for US team ).
While we are taking bets, can I bet too, that one (and exactly one) of you are right?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:41 am
Valentin Vornicu
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Gyan wrote:
While we are taking bets, can I bet too, that one (and exactly one) of you are right?
You can bet but if US gets 3 golds, then you lose
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:53 am
lomos_lupin
Yang-Mills Theory
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and how come you are sure ? Do you know the america team? if so, interduce them to us , and after all of these ,
then valentin, which one do you think will win the imo this year
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:36 pm
Valentin Vornicu
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lomos_lupin wrote:
and how come you are sure ? Do you know the america team? if so, interduce them to us , and after all of these ,
then valentin, which one do you think will win the imo this year
They are members on this site (all of them) some of which have taken some AoPS Classes.
My opinion for the top 3 countries is
1. China
2. Russia
3. US
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:36 pm
bomb
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OIIII!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE'S VIETNAM. THEY WILL CRUSH CHINA, USA AND RUSSIA...CRUSH'EM ALL THIS YR!!!!!
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:10 am
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I agree with Valentin.
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:16 am
Psycho
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personally, i think China... but who am i to predict such things?
i'm hoping Blegium will get a gold medal this year... at least i expect it
there's at least one guy in the belgium team who can do real crazy stuff with maths but then again... he comes from China
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:11 am
Stijn
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Psycho wrote:
i'm hoping Blegium will get a gold medal this year... at least i expect it
there's at least one guy in the belgium team who can do real crazy stuff with maths but then again... he comes from China
Don't expect a gold from me, I'd be enourmously happy with bronze .
I bet no-one in our team will get gold this year :'-(. Three or four bronze medals would be more realistic, maybe one silver. Our team is certainly not the strongest Belgium had ever had (Arne's gone... ). At least David has already shown how to get a medal last year.
And about Goulong (the supertalented 'Chinese imort' in our Belgian team). My guess: 2005: bronze. 2006: silver. 2007: gold .
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:05 am
Psycho
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i don't say we have the best team, but hey... what can a small country like ours do against huge nations who really train their students for these kinds of competitions
i mean... we only have one serious maths competition (with two pre-rounds who aren't challenging at all )
but then again, from time to time someone like Arne pops up
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:17 am
suweijie
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of course China,the poll has told everything.
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:16 am
Sasha
Poincare Conjecture
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It is the contest that will tell everything
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:00 am
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Sasha wrote:
It is the contest that will tell everything
True!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:37 am
Albanian Eagle
Navier-Stokes Equations
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bulgaria will win again cuz the balkans are the best. (the second place draw Albania=China)
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:41 am
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albania is the first because it starts with A and than L so it is the first. anyone against?
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:40 am
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son of Skanderbeg wrote:
albania is the first because it starts with A and than L so it is the first. anyone against?
Yeah, what about Afghanistan?
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:09 am
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son of Skanderbeg wrote:
albania is the first because it starts with A and than L so it is the first. anyone against?
Sorry, can you please explain it?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:41 am
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shobber wrote:
son of Skanderbeg wrote:
albania is the first because it starts with A and than L so it is the first. anyone against?
Sorry, can you please explain it?
AL bania
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:05 am
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