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Harazi ineq
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manlio
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Harazi ineq
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For a,b,c positive reals such that ab+bc+ca =3 prove that


\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+a^2}}+\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+b^2}} \geq \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+c^2}}

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we can hvae LHS\geq1,RHS\leq1right?

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Myth said to me that

LHS \geq 1

if ab \leq 3 and he never makes mistakes Wink , so it is true that LHS \geq 1

but I cannot prove it

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Perhaps it is better to write Smile

\sqrt{\frac{1}{1+a^2}}+\sqrt{\frac{1}{1+b^2}} \geq 1

for ab \leq 3

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it is my proof here. let\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+a^{2}}}=x,\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+b^{2}}}=y
we can get (\frac{1}{x^{2}}-1)(\frac{1}{y^{2}}-1)\leq9,then if x+y<1
we can have the contradiction

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You have

(1-x^2)(1-y^2) \leq 9x^2y^2 with x,y \leq 1

or

8x^2y^2 +x^2+y^2 \geq 1

If x +y <1

then

x^2+y^2 +2xy <1

so

8x^2y^2 +x^2+y^2 > x^2+y^2 +2xy

or

4xy >1

Why is this a contradiction?

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(\frac{1}{x^{2}}-1)(\frac{1}{y^{2}}-1)\leq9,then if x+y<1
we have (\frac{1}{x^{2}}-1)(\frac{1}{y^{2}}-1)= \frac{1-x^{2}}{x^{2}}\frac{1-y^{2}}{y^{2}}>\frac{(x+x+y)y}{x^{2}}\frac{(y+y+x)x}{y...
use AM >= GM

we can have the cantradiction.sorry for my unclear post last time. Smile

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Thank you very much , zhaobin.

It is correct and very nice. Smile

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manlio wrote:
Thank you very much , zhaobin.

It is correct and very nice. Smile

My thought is from 41st-imo.
if I rememeber correctly. Smile

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I have an easier way :
The ineq is equivalent to
\sqrt{a^2+1} + \sqrt{b^2+1} \geq \sqrt{a^2+1}.\sqrt{b^2+1}
We have :
\sqrt{a^2+1} + \sqrt{b^2+1} \geq \sqrt{(a+b)^2 +4}
We will prove
\sqrt{(a+b)^2 +4} \geq \sqrt{a^2+1}.\sqrt{b^2+1} (1)
Fortunately , (1) <==> (ab-3) (ab+1) \leq 0
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