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I didn't think you were being unpolite, I was just vehemently disagreeing with your statement that they were very very easy. Smile
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Why ghjk is not posting the results Shocked
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I think he would take some time to post it

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Why ghjk is not posting the results Shocked


It takes a lot of time to grade all the submissions and compile the results, so be patient. However, I think he should have at least posted something about the deadline expiring, who submitted stuff, the next problem set, and/or something else indicating that this contest is still going on.
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Here's the list of people who submitted and their scores:

\begin{tabular}{|c|c|c|c|c|c|} \hline {\bf Round 1} & {\bf Username} & {\bf Total Score} \\
\hline 1 & nayel &...

A sad fact: Nobody is able to solve completely #4, which is pretty unexpected since that problem is not that hard. I'll post solutions to all of the problem tomorrow.
The total people who submit is only 23/66, which is extremely disappointed Sad . I think people who signed up must be responsible for submitting their solutions. Remember one thing: Your effort+My effort=this tournament. I hope the 2nd round will have at least 44/66 submissions. Round 2 will be posted tomorrow, after the solutions being posted.
The new helper of this tournament is: Vworldv. since calc cruz is way too busy with his business. Vworldv will propose problems and I'll check to see if they suit the difficulty of this tournament. He will also help me grade the solutions too!
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i deserve 15, OP is an idiot. You know why OP

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#147
I sent in only one problem, I get 7/7 points on it, and I end up with double that?
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That's because ghjk mentioned that everyone gets 7 free points for the original no.2.

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I am a bit surprised by Altheman , I thought we will take 30/28 Mr. Green
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Can someone outline their solution to Problem 2 please? I was not able to make much progress at all.

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I was wondering how people did number 3...
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Note the trivial solution (1,1,1). Then prove if one value is less than 1 the universe breaks down (one equation is not satisfied). Then prove if two values are less than 1 the universe breaks down (one equation is not satisfied). If all values are less than 1 then the universe breaks down (all equations are not satisfied). Therefore all numbers are at least 1, and if any number is greater than 1 the universe breaks down again (all equations are not satisfied), so they all must be 1, and (1,1,1) is the only solution, and the universe stays intact.

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The way I proved number 3 was to prove that \max(f(x)/x)=\min(f(x)/x), thus f(x)=kx, and it's pretty easy to solve for k from there. However, I only got 5/7 because, unfortunately, that relied on the fact that f(x) was continuous.
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It seems a lot of people are not submitting, so can I join in one of their places?

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I did submit, even though I submitted a blank PM Rotfl

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#155
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It seems a lot of people are not submitting, so can I join in one of their places?

Yes you can, but you have to show me your participation first on the 2nd Round, which is probably posted tonight. Smile
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Thanks! Smile Can I have 7 points from the first round due to the unsolvable sine problem?

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The way I proved number 3 was to prove that \max(f(x)/x) = \min(f(x)/x), thus f(x) = kx, and it's pretty easy to solve for k from there. However, I only got 5/7 because, unfortunately, that relied on the fact that f(x) was continuous.


Could you elaborate on how you did this?
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Easy. Since f is continuous (by assumption, since I couldn't do the discontinuous case) and monotonic it is bijective. This means that \max(f(x)/x)=\max(f(f(x))/f(x))=\max(1+2x/f(x)) and then we have M=1+2/m and m=1+2/M therefore M=m and the result follows.

The way ghjk did it was to solve the recurrence relation in f^n(x) using characteristic polynomials to get f^n(x)=a(x)2^n+b(x)(-1)^n and stuff, and prove that one of a(x) and b(x) must be 0.
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Sorry, forgot about this. Will do rd 2.
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Any Ideas for number 4? All I had was;


After factoring we are trying to maximise,
\frac{1}{2}(x_1+x_2+...+x_{2010})^2 - \frac{3}{2}(x_1^2+...+x_{2010}^2) + x_1x_2\cdot\cdot\cdot x_{2010}

From the condition
\sum_{k = 1}^{2010}\frac{1}{x_{k}^{2}+1}= 2009 \Leftrightarrow \sum_{k = 1}^{2010}\frac{x_i^2}{x_{k}^{2}+1}= 1

So by Cauchy
(\sum x_1^2 + 1)\left( \sum_{k = 1}^{2010}\frac{x_i^2}{x_{k}^{2}+1}\right)\ge (x_1+...+x_{2010})^2

\therefore (x_1+...+x_{2010})^2 - (x_1^2 +...+x_{2010}^2) \le 2010

And also by cauchy
(\sum x_1^2 + 1)\left( \sum_{k = 1}^{2010}\frac{1}{x_{k}^{2}+1}\right) \ge 2010^2

\therefore \sum x_i^2 \ge \frac{2010}{2009}

Then I was stuck on how to maximise the product x_1x_2...x_{2010}


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