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proof that a x (b x c) = b(a . c) - c(a . b)
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proof that a x (b x c) = b(a . c) - c(a . b)

for vectors a,b,c in 3-space, Can someone show me how to prove that a\ x (b\ x\ c) = b(a \cdotp c) - c(a \cdotp b)?

I could do it the long and tedious way of expanding it with the determinant notation, but surely there is a simpler way?

This is an exerise posed by three of my textbooks, none of them show how to do it and it' driving me nuts since I can't figure it out.

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Re: proof that a x (b x c) = b(a . c) - c(a . b)

KBriggs wrote:
for vectors a,b,c in 3-space, Can someone show me how to prove that a\ x (b\ x\ c) = b(a \cdotp c) - c(a \cdotp b)?

I could do it the long and tedious way of expanding it with the determinant notation, but surely there is a simpler way?

This is an exerise posed by three of my textbooks, none of them show how to do it and it' driving me nuts since I can't figure it out.

Sorry for my ignorance: What is the definition of a x b? (And is it right that if a=(a_1,a_2,..,a_n), b=(b_1,b_2,..,b_n) then a \cdot b = a_1b_1 + ... + a_nb_n?)

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Sorry, axb was supposed to be the cross product of a and b - I am not sure how to get the notation right in Latex. These will be vectors in three-space, since the cross product is only valid there, so if a = <a1, a2, a3> and b = <b1, b2, b3> then a \cdotp b = a1*b1 + a2*b2 + a3*b3. The cross product of a and b can be expressed as the determinant of a 3x3 matrix whose top row is made up of the unit vectors i,j,k and the second row is the compnents of a and the third row the components of b.

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a \times (b \times c) is a vector perpendicular to both a and b \times c. Once you check that the RHS also has this property, the identity is proven up to a multiplicative factor, and all you have to do to figure out what that factor is is to plug in any particular choice of a, b, c that makes both sides nonzero.
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Hint:
Tray to prove this equality for koordinate vectors e1,e2,e3 (take special cases c=e1,e2,e3) and than use linearity for general case. But, this method is relatively long and "violent" (in proof You must add and subtract some naisly shosen members). Otherwise, You can find elementary proof of this formula in college books.

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Cross and dot product of vector \bold a, \bold b can be denoted by :
(\bold a\times\bold b)_i=\varepsilon_{ijk}a_jb_k, \bold a\cdot\bold b=\delta_{ij}a_ib_j. (Einstein notation)
Where \varepsilon_{ijk} and \delta_{ij} denotes Levi-Civita and Kronecker delta symbol respectively.
(\bold a\times(\bold b\times\bold c))_i

=\varepsilon_{ijk}a_j(\bold b\times\bold c)_k=\varepsilon_{ijk}a_j(\varepsilon_{lmk}b_lc_m)
=\varepsilon_{ijk}\varepsilon_{lmk}a_jb_lc_m.
By using the identity \varepsilon_{ijk}\varepsilon_{lmk}=\delta_{il}\delta_{jm}-\delta_{im}\delta_{jl}, the form can be rewritten by :
(\varepsilon_{ijk}\varepsilon_{lmk}=\delta_{il}\delta_{jm}-\delta_{im}\delta_{jl})a_jb_lc_m
=(b_l\delta_{il})(\delta_{jm}a_jc_m)-(c_m\delta_{im})(\delta_{jl}a_jb_l)
=b_i(\delta_{jm}a_jc_m)-c_i(\delta_{jl}a_jb_l).
This means each componat of \bold a\times(\bold b\times\bold c) and \bold b(\bold a\cdot \bold c)-\bold c(\bold a\cdot\bold b) is equal.

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Very nice. Congratulations!

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