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Two Duke University faculty members, three-time IMO medalist and three-time Putnam fellow Lenny Ng and Associate Professor David Kraines, will join Assistant Director of Admissions Duncan Brook and current Duke undergrads to discuss opportunities, academics, life, and admissions at Duke.

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Facilitator: Lenny Ng

rrusczyk 2011-10-18 19:29:54
Welcome to the Duke Math Jam!  We are very fortunate to have several representatives from Duke University with us tonight to tell us about math, life, and admissions at Duke.
rrusczyk 2011-10-18 19:30:07
Lenny Ng (lng) is an Associate Professor in the Math Department.  Some of you may know Lenny from his success at the IMO (three medals) and the Putnam (three-time Fellow).  I know him from the Math Olympiad Summer Program, which he attended in eighth grade when I was a senior (and yes, I think he was ahead of me then).
rrusczyk 2011-10-18 19:30:27
We also have with us David Kraines (dkraines), also an Associate Professor in the Math Department, and Duncan Brook (DuncanBrook-Duke), the Assistant Director of the Office of Undergraduate Admissions.
rrusczyk 2011-10-18 19:30:37
We also have with us three current Duke undergrads, Joe Keefer (jkon), Siyang Chen (Axiom of Choice), and Daniel Vitek (Teki-Teki).
rrusczyk 2011-10-18 19:30:48
Before we get started, I have a quick note about this classroom.  This room is moderated, which means that all your comments come to the instructors.  We may share your comments with the whole room if we so choose.  We will let you know when it's time to start asking questions.
rrusczyk 2011-10-18 19:30:58
Now, I'll turn the floor over to our guests from Duke!
lng 2011-10-18 19:31:12
Hello everyone and welcome to the second annual Duke Math Jam on AoPS! Thanks to Richard for the introductions. Our group here at Duke will be happy to share whatever information you'd like to know about our program.
lng 2011-10-18 19:31:31
Before we get started, some basic information about Duke (copy-and-pasted from last year's session).
lng 2011-10-18 19:31:42
Duke University is located in Durham, North Carolina, in the
technology-heavy Research Triangle Park area. (This area is said to have the highest concentration of Ph.D.s anywhere in the country!) The university is a fantastic research center, and we're very proud of our undergraduates in math particularly. Duke has historically placed high on the Putnam exam, including first place finishes in 1993 and 1996, and we place pretty consistently in the top 10. Among other things, we've had our share of Putnam Fellows -- Melanie Wood, Craig Gentry, and Jeffrey Vanderkam.
lng 2011-10-18 19:32:13
Richard has already covered this, but here's a quick digest of the people we've gathered here to answer your questions:
lng 2011-10-18 19:32:21
DuncanBrook-Duke - Duncan Brook, Assistant Director from Duke's
admissions office; (actually Duncan isn't here yet, but hopefully the rest of us can answer your questions)
lng 2011-10-18 19:32:30
Faculty from the Duke math department: lng - Lenny Ng (me); dkraines - David Kraines, who is the most experienced person in our department at recruiting students for our undergraduate program;
lng 2011-10-18 19:32:40
three of our star students: jkon - Joe Keefer; AxiomOfChoice - Siyang Chen; Teki-Teki - Daniel Vitek. All three are active in the Duke University Math Union, our undergraduate math association, and you can find out more information about DUMU at http://www.math.duke.edu/dumu/ .
lng 2011-10-18 19:32:56
In case you'd like general information about Duke, there's a lot of useful info about Duke admissions at http://admissions.duke.edu/ and about Duke math at http://www.math.duke.edu/ .
lng 2011-10-18 19:33:22
Now let's open the floor for questions! (Apologies in advance if we can't get to your particular question -- we'll do the best we
can. There will probably be some lag between when you ask a question and when it gets answered.)
lng 2011-10-18 19:33:28
In order for us to learn a little about you, we would really
appreciate if you preface your question with (First Name / School Grade / City, State or City, Country). For example, (Jane / 11th grade / Durham, NC). Thanks!
lng 2011-10-18 19:35:19
(Floor is now open -- please submit your questions!)
byblos 2011-10-18 19:38:16
Veljko / 11 th grade / Kragujevac, Serbia  I would like to ask how much it costs ? And what should we do if we plan to applicate on financial aid ?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:38:18
Although tuition is very nice, Duke does meet full financial need.  There is a box to check for financial aid.
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:38:49
Tuition is very *high*, but Duke meets all financial need.
lng 2011-10-18 19:38:58
Sorry, our resident expert on admissions isn't here yet...
Marble-101 2011-10-18 19:39:15
What AP's does Duke accept?
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 19:39:17
You can find a list of AP's that Duke accepts here: http://trinity.duke.edu/academic-requirements?p=ap-credit-by-department http://www.pratt.duke.edu/policies-procedures#10
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 19:39:48
There policies are different between Pratt (the engineering school) and Trinity (the school of Arts and Sciences).
lng 2011-10-18 19:39:50
Duncan is here now (give him a minute to set up)
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 19:39:53
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etothei 2011-10-18 19:40:31
(Caleb / 10th grade / Orem, UT) Why should I choose Duke rather than anywhere else?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 19:40:33
I'll give some personal thoughts on why I chose Duke over MIT, Caltech, and UChicago.  First of all, the students at Duke are extremely well-rounded academically - there's a strong but not unwieldy core curriculum, as well as world-class faculty in the humanities, sciences, and engineering.  That's a combination that you can't get anywhere else.  Duke's math department is also very strong.  From a personal standpoint, Duke is close to home, and made it very feasible financially to attend.
bili 2011-10-18 19:40:37
Bili/9th/Cupertino, CA/ Does class ranking play a role in college admissions for Duke?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:40:40
High class rank does help, but it is no guarantee for admission.
AruKasera 2011-10-18 19:41:56
Oh, and, to the question regarding IB vs AP. Please be honest :). Considering you have two equally accomplished applicants, one taken IB and the other taken AP. I've heard many times IB is equivalent to AP.
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:41:58
Both IB and AP are considered favorably.
lng 2011-10-18 19:42:11
I'd second that one thing that distinguishes Duke is the quality and energy of our undergraduates (in math in particular).
geniusmath 2011-10-18 19:43:04
How is Duke's law school?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:43:08
Duke has one of the top law schools in the country.
guberfish12 2011-10-18 19:44:34
Do colleges really look at AMC and AIME scores in the entry process? (Mark/ 9th grade/ Los Angeles,CA)
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 19:44:35
Colleges and universities consider AMC and AIME scores (although we don't see them unless you tell us about them!) as a sign of academic achievement and as a sign of extracurricular activities.  Both of those help!
humzaiqbal 2011-10-18 19:44:50
Humza/10th grade/ MillValley CA Does Duke see PSAT scores?
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 19:44:57
Hi, everybody, from admissions: nope, we don't see PSAT scores, so don't worry about your performance there for Duke.  We require either 1. the ACT with Writing or 2. the SAT and two SAT subject tests.  We don't prefer one over the other.  Testing is just one part of our holistic review.  Look here for info: http://admissions.duke.edu/jump/applying/apply_testing.html
Jasmine8925 2011-10-18 19:45:09
Mallika/12/OR: What merit scholarships does Duke give?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:45:13
Duke does offer a number of merit scholarships.  We offer about 50 merit scholarships a year.  You can check out http://ousf.duke.edu/merit-scholarship-programs for a full list.
Jasmine8925 2011-10-18 19:45:33
Mallika/12/OR: where on the common app should we put art of problem solving classes?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 19:45:35
There is a section for extracurricular activities; you should be able to find space there.
byblos 2011-10-18 19:46:21
(Veljko / 11th grade/ Kragujevac, Serbia ) I would like to ask, do you count out success on competitions, like IMO and IOI ?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:46:24
We look upon success in the IMO and the IOI very favorably.
lng 2011-10-18 19:46:43
(as do most places, I would imagine)
zero.destroyer 2011-10-18 19:47:08
Do you allow people who already took multivar calculus to pass out of it using high school (college) transcripts?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:47:11
Yes.  Students are placed in the math course they are ready for without regard to qualifying exams.
AruKasera 2011-10-18 19:47:23
Is Duke TIP worth mentioning in the resume?
as2002 2011-10-18 19:47:27
Does being a part of Duke Tip program has any weight for admissions?  If a student take classes that are offered in summer, do they get more preference?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 19:47:29
Duke gives no preference to Duke TIP graduates solely on the basis of having attended TIP.  However, Duke TIP, especially when coupled with further activities, can be a sign of healthy extracurricular interests.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 19:48:16
Some follow-up about AP vs. IB in the application process: We view the AP and IB as similarly rigorous.  If the IB diploma is available, we hope that students will pursue it rather than taking only a collection of IB classes.  At some schools, both AP and IB classes are offered; others offer dual enrollment programs or no APs/IBs at all.  Within the context of applicants who've demonstrated preparedness for Duke, we're excited by students who've challenged themselves academically -- in the context of what's available at their high school.
Marble-101 2011-10-18 19:48:31
(Aashil/9th Grade/NewJersey): How is Duke's Computer Science department?
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 19:48:32
I'm a computer science major here, and I think Duke CS offers good opportunities for undergrads to take advanced (e.g. grad-level) courses and work on research projects with the faculty.
geniusmath 2011-10-18 19:49:07
What if you finish college math courses in high school?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:49:13
College courses in high school will definitely count in placement.  If they are not required for graduating high school, then they will count towards graduation from Duke.
geniusmath 2011-10-18 19:49:32
How is Duke's business school?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:49:35
Duke's business school is among the top in the world.
julieteach 2011-10-18 19:49:41
how is duke engineering
lng 2011-10-18 19:49:50
If we have it, it's probably good. :)
soulspeedy 2011-10-18 19:50:07
What is the most popular major at Duke?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:50:09
Economics.  Biology is a close second.
lng 2011-10-18 19:50:15
Actually we have a very strong engineering school.
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 19:50:39
Just a follow-up on engineering: Duke's biomedical engineering and electrical/computer engineering are very well-regarded.
julieteach 2011-10-18 19:50:57
what is the higest level of math that duke offers?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:51:01
Advanced undergraduates can take upper-level graduate courses at Duke.
lng 2011-10-18 19:51:33
(and often do)
Jasmine8925 2011-10-18 19:51:36
Mallika/12/OR: What percent of students get involved in undergraduate research?
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 19:51:41
Over *half* of Duke undergraduates pursue research.  You can get funding as early as ... your freshman year.  Take a look at this video for a few examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1fGb3wKIO0
julieteach 2011-10-18 19:53:01
does duke have aeronautical engineering?
lng 2011-10-18 19:53:02
We have a certificate of aerospace engineering...
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 19:53:37
There have been a few questions about international applicants to Duke.  Take a look at this page for some information about applying to Duke if you're not a U.S. citizen or permanent resident: http://admissions.duke.edu/jump/applying/apply_international.html
zero.destroyer 2011-10-18 19:53:55
how good is duke CS, math, and physics?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:53:58
Duke's physics program has a very strong emphasis on undergraduate education.  Duke faculty also conduct cutting-edge research in physics (and undergraduates are involved!).  We have especially strong nuclear physics, high-energy physics, and optics groups.  AxiomOfChoice offered a nice description of Duke's CS program above.
javelinstorm 2011-10-18 19:54:02
Jerry/12/Pittsburgh If I am taking a college level course beyond calculus such as linear algebra, would i get credit for it at duke?
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 19:54:03
Yes, if you speak with the director of undergraduate studies for the math department, you may be able to skip some courses such as linear algebra.
AruKasera 2011-10-18 19:54:27
How is MathCounts looked at? Is making nationals or top 10 in the state worth mentioning?
dkraines 2011-10-18 19:54:30
All outside activities are worth mentioning.
cmsmc2010 2011-10-18 19:55:52
Nina/CO - Which individual (what type) would get the most out of Duke?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 19:55:54
As a Duke undergraduate, Duke is best for anybody!  In all seriousness, Duke can cater to just about any interest a student may have, whether academic or extracurricular.  Duke offers a lot of flexibility - undergraduates are welcome to design their own majors (with institutional approval) or start an on-campus organization.  Duke is a good place to get hands-on experience in a field you're excited about or discover something you didn't know you cared about.  Duke students are high-achievers who like to have fun, as all of the students (and some of the professors here) can attest.
HIJUMP 2011-10-18 19:57:39
Paul/10th grade/Chapel Hill /NC Could I change major after one or two years in Duke ?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 19:57:40
Yes, you can change your major just about up until the point you graduate!
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 19:58:35
There are over 400 student organizations at Duke, and many have an engineering focus: Engineers Without Borders, Engineering World Health, Duke Motorsports, etc. are all hands-on.  But engineers are not the only Duke students who engage directly with the world -- any Duke student is eligible for do DukeEngage (http://dukeengage.duke.edu), which involves spending two months, anywhere in the world, on a fully immersive community service project -- all fully paid for by Duke.  Some of those -- water filtration in Africa, moving a river in Indonesia, restoring biomedical devices in developing countries, etc. -- are engineering focused, but plenty more aren't.  DukeEngage is just one example: we think that hands-on experience with the world is a huge part of a Duke education.
DJohnson 2011-10-18 19:58:46
Hans/10th/ St. Peter,MN  What hands on engineering projects are offered at Duke?  Clubs, competitions, etc?
cmsmc2010 2011-10-18 20:00:56
from what grade should we mention our extracurrliculars/ achievements?(in our application)
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:00:59
You'll see that, on the Common Application or Universal Application, you're asked to tell us about your extracurricular involvement during high school (9th through 12th grades).  We're interested in anything you do outside of the classroom, whether it's mathematics competitions, school leadership, sports, part-time work (I worked a 40-hour week at KFC for three years in high school!), community service, research, or whatever.  We value depth over breadth, and you should do the things you want to do, not the things you think we want you to do ... because that's not what we want you to do!  Just be yourself and follow your interests.
Lemi 2011-10-18 20:02:02
( Lazar Milenkovic, 11th grade, Kragujevac, Serbia ) What about social life?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:02:09
Duke's social scene is healthy, to say the least.  Duke students have the most school spirit of any school I considered, and Duke's athletics are a great way to have fun throughout the year.  We have a pretty good basketball team!  Duke offers a wide range of social scenes, from fraternities and sororities to selective living groups focussed around such diverse interests as global health, sustainable living, foreign languages, and entrepreneurship.
galadys 2011-10-18 20:02:25
Is Duke a religion-based school? i.e. Would I have to take theology classes?
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:02:27
No, you are not required to take any theology classes, or participate in any religious activities for that matter.
lng 2011-10-18 20:02:43
We're Methodist-affiliated but only historically (not now).
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:03:04
The only required class at Duke is the freshman writing seminar.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:05:07
To the question about changing your major after one or two years: Actually, you're not required to declare a major, in Arts & Sciences or Engineering, until the end of your sophomore year.  So you have time to explore, and we want you to.  Many, many students double major, or pursue a major, minor, and certificate (interdisciplinary minor).  You can even design your own major through a program called Program II, which has existed at Duke for over forty years.  Students have designed all sorts of majors; take a look here: http://trinity.duke.edu/program-ii/academics/program-ii-titles
Kellybean 2011-10-18 20:05:22
What are some pros about Duke, as in what does it have that other places don't?
lng 2011-10-18 20:05:23
Here's one pro, in my opinion -- Duke tries to combine the best aspects of research universities and liberal arts colleges. So you get a first-class research faculty (and opportunities for research, etc.), but class sizes are generally *quite* small, so there's a great deal of student-faculty interaction on an everyday basis.
Jasmine8925 2011-10-18 20:07:24
Mallika/12/OR: what is the average size of freshman classes?
theninja 2011-10-18 20:07:26
What's the ratio of Teacher/Professer to Student
lng 2011-10-18 20:07:28
75% of Duke classes are 19 students or fewer, and our student-to-faculty ratio is 8:1. No math class has more than 35 students.
lng 2011-10-18 20:07:41
(and most are much smaller)
AruKasera 2011-10-18 20:08:38
Straight A's in middle school. Is this even looked at?
QuantumTiger 2011-10-18 20:08:38
dkraines: I was hoping to learn more about their astrophysics department, since that's what I want to major in. Do you know anything about that?
dkraines 2011-10-18 20:08:40
We don't have an astrophysics department at Duke, although we do offer a undergraduate class giving an overview of astrophysics.  A lot of undergraduates take general relativity.
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:08:45
There are lots of competitions in math and computer science at Duke. For example, I teach the computer science competition training seminar (http://cs.duke.edu/courses/fall11/cps149s). We regularly send teams to participate in international competitions; for example, I went to ACM-ICPC world finals twice.
byblos 2011-10-18 20:08:48
(Veljko / 11 th grade / Kragujevac, Serbia ) Is there any web page where I can find those competitions you have ? When freind of mine got laptop from your university. Is ther still something like that ? I thnik on computer science competitions
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:09:28
Also, there are lots of other competitions (the Putnam math competition, research competitions, etc...).
zero.destroyer 2011-10-18 20:11:21
Are race and financial situations used as factors in the admit process?
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:11:23
We are 100% need-blind in our admissions process (and we meet 100% of a family's demonstrated financial need ... over half of Duke students receive aid to be here, and the median aid amount is over $38,000/year), so your family's financial situation, good or bad, won't impact your admissions decision.  "Race" is not a factor in our admissions process; only six things are specifically rated in our process: strength of curriculum, academic achievement, standardized testing, recommendations, extracurriculars, and essays.  They're all equally weighted.  That being said, we have both the privilege and great responsibility of choosing among many, many academically qualified applicants.  As we seek an extraordinary class of Duke freshman each year, we view diversity in the very broadest sense: we want students from every possible background, students with artistic talent, students with athletic talent, students who've participated across the spectrum of extracurriculars, students who'll go on to work on Wall Street, students who want to teach, students who are passionate about math, students of every sort.  So, we pay attention to everything: that's the benefit and challenge of a truly holistic review process.
DJohnson 2011-10-18 20:12:25
Hans/10th/ St. Peter, MN  Does Duke have any affiliation with FIRST teams in Durham?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:12:26
Check out http://www.duke.edu/web/robotics/html/outreach.htm.
pseudonymous0 2011-10-18 20:12:57
Isaac / 10th / MA:  How are the sports programs at Duke?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:12:58
There's no better athletics program in the country.
geniusmath 2011-10-18 20:13:25
What extracirricular classes do you offer?
dkraines 2011-10-18 20:13:28
Duke offers "house courses" which cover a very broad range of topics.  These are taught by undergraduates and are graded on a pass/fail basis.  Check out http://trinity.duke.edu/house-courses for more info!
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:14:11
About straight As in middle school: those are a great start, but we consider your high school academic record only.
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:14:42
Duke Robotics Club is involved in coaching at least one FIRST team in Durham (see http://www.duke.edu/web/robotics/html/first.htm).
ursostupid 2011-10-18 20:15:16
music?
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:15:19
We have great arts opportunities, academic and extracurricular, including music.  Take a look at http://arts.duke.edu/ and http://arts.duke.edu/music
SDG 2011-10-18 20:16:22
do you get any home-schoolers?
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:16:24
Yes, we consider and admit qualified homeschooled applicants every year.  Take a look here: http://admissions.duke.edu/jump/applying/apply_homeschooled.html
ursostupid 2011-10-18 20:16:46
can you major in history?
rrrrr 2011-10-18 20:17:00
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DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:17:01
yep, here's a link to a list of majors/minors/certificates: http://admissions.duke.edu/jump/academics/majors.html
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:17:02
Sorry, the last ) got attached to the hyperlink. The correct link is http://www.duke.edu/web/robotics/html/first.htm
yeswecan95 2011-10-18 20:19:28
aliya/11th/n. dakota do you consider students who graduated high school a year early?
Jasmine8925 2011-10-18 20:20:05
how common is it to double major in math and computer science?
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:20:07
There at lots of math and compsci majors. (For example, I am one.) I would say there are at least 25 people a year who either double major in both, or do some combination of major/minor.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:20:14
we do consider students who graduate early.  at the same time, students who can only present 4-x years of academic and extracurricular record sometimes have less to show us than others in our pool of approximately 30,000 applicants for 1,700 spots in each freshman class.  understand that graduating early may demonstrate academic challenge and achievement, and it may mean a student was less involved in his/her community than other applicants.
AruKasera 2011-10-18 20:20:54
Perhaps so. Is it possible though to be interviewed at 8th grade????
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:21:17
No.  We only conduct local alumni interviews for current applicants to Duke.
HIJUMP 2011-10-18 20:22:19
Paul/10th Grade/Chapel Hill/NC Do you require a bottom line scores of SAT or ACT ? What are they?
MonchoSB 2011-10-18 20:22:44
how good is it for aplication that i have participated in numerous math competitions internationalu
dkraines 2011-10-18 20:22:47
Major international competitions are considered quite favorably.
Jasmine8925 2011-10-18 20:22:49
is there a Putnam seminar?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:22:50
There's a Putnam seminar that meets at least once a week during the fall semester.  It's generally taught by faculty and undergraduates (with supervision) with extensive experience in math competitions.  Based on our record in the Putnam competition, I'd say the seminar does pretty well!  I'm actually a TA for this year's course.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:22:56
We have no minimums.  You can take a look at the middle 50% testing for our most recent class of admitted students here: http://admissions.duke.edu/jump/applying/who_2015profile.html
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:23:13
But remember that testing is just one element of any application.
tonypr 2011-10-18 20:24:11
Anthony/12th grade/Puerto Rico: Is an interview required to apply? (or highly recommended?)
Jasmine8925 2011-10-18 20:24:34
if you double major in math and computer science, can you still graduate in 4 years?
dkraines 2011-10-18 20:24:42
95% of freshmen graduate from Duke in 4 years.  Roughly 2/3 of all math majors have a second major, and they still graduate in four years.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:25:23
Interviews are optional and supplemental; we were able to interview about 40% of our almost 30,000 applicants last year.  The local interview reports tend to confirm what we see in the application, we don't select the best or worst students (it's an entirely logistical challenge), and we don't advantage or disadvantage students because they did or didn't receive an interview.  More info here: http://admissions.duke.edu/jump/applying/apply_interviews.html
mario123 2011-10-18 20:25:37
Does making MOP highly increase your chances of being accepted?
lng 2011-10-18 20:25:45
MOP certainly helps -- we definitely see it on your application (and our department loves MOP alums!).
DJohnson 2011-10-18 20:26:28
Hans/10th/St. Peter, MN   Do students get involved in research through their coursework or is there a separate avenue into research opportunities at the Pratt School?  And is this Pratt facility shared by the other institutions and companies in the area?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:26:29
You may want to take a look at http://www.pratt.duke.edu/pratt-research-fellow.  The Pratt school is a division of Duke and is solely an academic facility, although a lot of the graduates do go on to work at companies in the area and throughout the country.
mario123 2011-10-18 20:27:24
Is Varsity sports something worth putting on the resume? What about instrumental competition successes?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:27:26
Yes and yes.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:27:47
Lots of Pratt students collaborate in research with professors at Duke, corporations in the Triangle, students at other universities (UNC, NC State, NC Central, etc.) in the area.  You can do research beyond the aegis of Pratt too; take a look at research opportunities for all Duke students at http://undergraduateresearch.duke.edu/
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:27:58
Any extracurricular activities that you choose to list are helpful.  It certainly doesn't hurt!
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:29:55
To follow up the question about other companies in the area, the Research Triangle Park around 20 minutes from Duke hosts a large number of technical and engineering companies. For example, the largest IBM facility in the world is located there.
mario123 2011-10-18 20:30:22
Can we choose our instructors in college, or does the college automatically assign us to one once we have chosen our major or classes?
dkraines 2011-10-18 20:30:28
You have great freedom to choose which courses and sections you wish to take.  Instructors are listed in the class schedule.
mario123 2011-10-18 20:30:37
Do you guys have an applied math program? If you do, how does it compare with the rest of the nation?
lng 2011-10-18 20:30:38
We have an extremely strong applied math group (mathematical biology, fluid dynamics, ...) within the math department proper. I would say it's one of the top groups in the country. Quite a few of our math majors end up conducting research in some flavor of applid math. We also have a great deal of interaction with statistics, physics, chemistry, biology, computer science, ...
lng 2011-10-18 20:30:44
*applied
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:31:50
(Correction: Apparently IBM in Research Triangle Park is the second largest in the world, with the largest being in India.)
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:31:53
Forbes actually ranked Durham the #5 "geekiest" city in the country because we have so many people here with advanced math, science, technology, and engineering degrees.  The Triangle (Durham, Raleigh, and Chapel Hill) has the highest number of PhDs and MDs, per capita, of anywhere in the country.  There are lots of smart people, companies, and universities doing extraordinary research -- and the Triangle is one of the top three destinations every year for Duke graduates.
Dr_Algebra 2011-10-18 20:35:04
Tell me a little more about Duke, Economics, Econometrics, Finance, Mathematics their relationships and opportunities.
dkraines 2011-10-18 20:35:10
Duke's economics department has a strong focus on undergraduate education.  We also have many undergraduates studying both mathematics and economics, and the math department offers a course in mathematical finance that many undergraduates take.  Many of our majors are offered internships on Wall Street.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:36:14
We have a very strong pipeline to the very best investment banks in the world.  We have a Finance minor and an extraordinary program called Duke in NYC: Financial Markets where students spend a semester in New York City, taking classes with Duke professors but also apprenticing on Wall Street, shadowing traders on the trading floor, meeting with leaders of banks, funds, and the Federal Reserve, etc.  So, we do well with the best employers in the world.  I actually know two Admissions work-study students whose part-time job was staffing the Admissions reception desk ... who are either at Goldman or headed there after graduating.  Info about the Duke in NY: Financial Markets program is here: http://econ.duke.edu/DukeinNY
AruKasera 2011-10-18 20:36:21
How many people have gone to Goldman Sachs from Duke?
mario123 2011-10-18 20:37:15
Is Duke a math-science school?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:37:17
Duke isn't a math-science school, simply because Duke is more well-rounded than that.  That being said, a lot of the admissions staff will say, "Duke is what you make of it," and while this sounds like admissions-speak, it's rather true.  If you want to take a bunch of math and science courses at Duke, you are perfectly able to.  (You definitely won't be able to take them all.)
SDG 2011-10-18 20:39:15
what are the some of the programming languages that would come in handy for a freshman?
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:39:18
Our introductory computer science courses use Python, and we switch to the standard Java and C/C++ for the intermediate/advanced courses. The engineering school also makes heavy use of Matlab.
mario123 2011-10-18 20:39:19
In your admissions process, do you place a greater emphasis on exceptional achievement in one or two areas(ex:MOP or Another National Training Camp), or do would you rather like the applicants to be good in many areas, but not exceptional in any of them?
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:39:21
We seek "well-rounded" students, "well-angled" students, and everyone in between.  Do what excites and interests you; don't worry about us -- and then tell us about it.
penny13 2011-10-18 20:40:06
hannah/9th/cary nc  Do you recogmend you take as many freshman required classes as possible before you enrole?
dkraines 2011-10-18 20:40:08
Duke students must take a variety of courses in different areas.  Yet, there is plenty of time to specialize in any particular area.
soulspeedy 2011-10-18 20:41:43
Vincent/11th/Chapel Hill/NC: If I take college classes at UNC(don't hate me), which aren't necessarily math classes, will I still be able to receive credit for those classes?
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:41:45
If a college or dual-enrollment class you take in high school counts towards your high school graduation, you generally won't receive credit for it at a university like Duke.  We won't make you repeat anything you've already done, though.  Placement and taking courses at Duke are generally quite face-to-face/personal issues.  You just go talk to the professor.  This personal reality is one of the benefits of a mid-sized university.
firework 2011-10-18 20:42:57
What is the food like at Duke?
jkon 2011-10-18 20:42:58
For food ... we know this is important, and we have over 30 places to eat on campus!   http://dining.duke.edu/where/oncampus/index-old.php  Durham has many extraordinary restaurants, plus cool food trucks like OnlyBurger: http://www.durhamcatering.com/onlyburger/ Gourmet Magazine also named Durham the "foodiest" town in America – we have amazing restaurants and locally-grown food.
lng 2011-10-18 20:43:24
^Correct, Bon Appetit (not Gourmet), for what it's worth.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:43:41
Remember that there's only one required class at Duke (Writing 20).  We have over 2,000 courses each year, and every one is open to any student.  You're going to have extraordinary freedom as a student at Duke, no matter what classes you take in high school or formal credit you hope to apply here.
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:45:23
To follow up about the food, I must say that it is pretty great. I just finished a plate of Korean barbeque beef  from a Durham food truck and it was delicious.
mario123 2011-10-18 20:45:33
How much weight do you place on recommendations? Do these recommendations have to be from teachers in our school?
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:45:35
Earlier, I listed the six things we rate in the admissions process.  Recommendations are one of those six, and all six (strength of curriculum, academic achievement, standardized testing, recommendations, extracurriculars, and essays) are equally weighted.  You'll submit a letter from your college counselor and two teachers who've taught you in 11th or 12th grade core academic classes.  Focus on teachers who know you well and will provide insight about who you are as a person, inside and outside the classroom.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:47:33
You can submit an additional recommendation if you like -- from someone who might have insight about you that people at your school can't offer -- and we'll consider the perspective, but doing so is neither expected nor required -- and a "fat" application file isn't necessarily a better one.  We're interested in what the letter can tell us about you, not the name or title at the bottom of the letter.
mario123 2011-10-18 20:48:43
Is the campus nice:)?
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:48:46
Oh my goodness.  We have over 9,500 acres of campus (about 1.5 acres per student!).  You should've seen it today ... blue skies, horizon to horizon, warm, stunning.
lng 2011-10-18 20:49:22
It really is beautiful. You should visit!
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:49:23
The Duke Forest right next to West Campus has 42 miles of trails.  Sooo, if you like running, you can do a marathon, and then keep going...
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:49:49
Duke's campus is beautiful, and Duke puts quite a bit of effort into it.  We've got the Duke Gardens, which are always fun.  I'd say that my favorite times of the year here are fall days in early November.
mario123 2011-10-18 20:50:02
Is there time to go see the Blue Devils play basketball?
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:50:04
Absolutely.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:50:29
Some students find time to camp out for two months for the Duke/UNC home game...
lng 2011-10-18 20:50:48
Not any in my classes (ahem).
Teki-Teki 2011-10-18 20:51:03
Duke students get in free to all home games, and our student seating section is renowned, perhaps even feared.
pseudonymous0 2011-10-18 20:51:33
Does it snow down there?
AxiomOfChoice 2011-10-18 20:51:35
Yes, on average it snows about 7 inches per year. We usually get snow about 2 to 3 times per year.
DuncanBrook-Duke 2011-10-18 20:53:36
I'm a cyclist and ride in the winter (during application reading season) with only one layer of fleece ... there are sometimes 60-degree or 70-degree days in January or February.  We get mild winters, beautiful falls and springs, and southern summers (relatively hot and humid, but it's already fading by the time students move in ... this year's move-in day was 82 degrees, with blue skies and dry air)
lng 2011-10-18 20:55:45
Okay, I think we're going to wrap things up now. Thanks for all your questions! This was fun. Please feel free to contact us by email if you have more questions.
rrusczyk 2011-10-18 20:56:24
Thanks again to Lenny, David, Duncan, Joe, Siyang, and Daniel for taking the time to tell us all about math, life, and admissions at Duke!

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