Canada/USA Mathcamp Math Jam
Go back to the Math Jam ArchiveCanada/USA Mathcamp Program Director Marisa Debowsky describes the Mathcamp summer program for high school math students.
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Facilitator: Marisa Debowsky
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:30:41
Hello and welcome to the Canada/USA Mathcamp Math Jam!
Hello and welcome to the Canada/USA Mathcamp Math Jam!
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:30:55
Before I introduce our guests, let me briefly explain how our online classroom works.
Before I introduce our guests, let me briefly explain how our online classroom works.
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:31:16
This room is moderated, which means that all your questions and comments come to the moderators. We may share your comments with the whole room if we so choose.
This room is moderated, which means that all your questions and comments come to the moderators. We may share your comments with the whole room if we so choose.
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:31:23
Also, you'll find that you can adjust the classroom windows in a variety of ways, and can adjust the font size by clicking the A icons atop the main window.
Also, you'll find that you can adjust the classroom windows in a variety of ways, and can adjust the font size by clicking the A icons atop the main window.
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:31:34
Canada/USA Mathcamp is an intensive five-week-long summer program for high-school students interested in mathematics, designed to expose students to the beauty of advanced mathematical ideas and to new ways of thinking. You can learn more about Canada/USA Mathcamp at www.mathcamp.org.
Canada/USA Mathcamp is an intensive five-week-long summer program for high-school students interested in mathematics, designed to expose students to the beauty of advanced mathematical ideas and to new ways of thinking. You can learn more about Canada/USA Mathcamp at www.mathcamp.org.
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:31:43
In this Math Jam, Canada/USA Mathcamp staff will lead a discussion about their outstanding program. Many AoPS instructors, assistants, and students are alumni of Mathcamp, including me!
In this Math Jam, Canada/USA Mathcamp staff will lead a discussion about their outstanding program. Many AoPS instructors, assistants, and students are alumni of Mathcamp, including me!
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:31:50
For now, please hold your questions -- they'll let you know when you can start asking questions. Also, due to the number of people attending tonight, they may not be able to get to every question.
For now, please hold your questions -- they'll let you know when you can start asking questions. Also, due to the number of people attending tonight, they may not be able to get to every question.
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:31:55
And now let me introduce our guests!
And now let me introduce our guests!
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:32:01
Marisa Debowsky (MarisaD) started teaching at Mathcamp in '06 and has been the director of the program since 2009. If you have been writing emails to Mathcamp, she's probably been answering them.
Marisa Debowsky (MarisaD) started teaching at Mathcamp in '06 and has been the director of the program since 2009. If you have been writing emails to Mathcamp, she's probably been answering them.
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:32:10
Jalex Stark (khanh93) was a Mathcamp student in '12 and '13 and a JC (= counselor) in '14 and '15. They are currently a third-year math major at Caltech, where they run the annual Caltech Harvey Mudd Math Competition. This summer, they will work as a counselor at Bridge to Enter Advanced Mathematics (BEAM), a math summer camp for underprivileged 7th graders in New York City.
Jalex Stark (khanh93) was a Mathcamp student in '12 and '13 and a JC (= counselor) in '14 and '15. They are currently a third-year math major at Caltech, where they run the annual Caltech Harvey Mudd Math Competition. This summer, they will work as a counselor at Bridge to Enter Advanced Mathematics (BEAM), a math summer camp for underprivileged 7th graders in New York City.
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:32:16
Yulia Gorlina (ygorlina) was a Mathcamp student in '99 - '01 and staff in '02 - '04. She went to Caltech for undergrad, and then the University of Arizona for grad school, where she got a Ph.D. in math. She's now a Business Intelligence Developer at Epic in Madison, Wisconsin.
Yulia Gorlina (ygorlina) was a Mathcamp student in '99 - '01 and staff in '02 - '04. She went to Caltech for undergrad, and then the University of Arizona for grad school, where she got a Ph.D. in math. She's now a Business Intelligence Developer at Epic in Madison, Wisconsin.
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:32:34
David Roe (roed) was a Mathcamp student in '99-'02 and has been staff almost every year since. This summer, he'll be the Mathcamp Academic Coordinator, in charge of putting together the course catalog (of about 150 classes and 30 projects) and overseeing the academic side of the program. Outside of camp, he went to MIT for undergrad, and then Harvard for grad school, where he got a Ph.D. in math. He's now a Postdoc at the University of Pittsburgh.
David Roe (roed) was a Mathcamp student in '99-'02 and has been staff almost every year since. This summer, he'll be the Mathcamp Academic Coordinator, in charge of putting together the course catalog (of about 150 classes and 30 projects) and overseeing the academic side of the program. Outside of camp, he went to MIT for undergrad, and then Harvard for grad school, where he got a Ph.D. in math. He's now a Postdoc at the University of Pittsburgh.
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:32:45
And I'm Laura Zehender; I was Mathcamp student in '07-'09, and currently work at AoPS in San Diego.
And I'm Laura Zehender; I was Mathcamp student in '07-'09, and currently work at AoPS in San Diego.
LauraZed
2016-03-15 19:32:52
I'll turn the room over to Marisa now!
I'll turn the room over to Marisa now!
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:32:56
Hi, everybody, and welcome to the annual Mathcamp Q&A! A big thanks to @LauraZed, @rrusczyk, and the AoPS team for hosting us.
Hi, everybody, and welcome to the annual Mathcamp Q&A! A big thanks to @LauraZed, @rrusczyk, and the AoPS team for hosting us.
bigmath
2016-03-15 19:33:09
hello
hello
Davidr
2016-03-15 19:33:09
hi
hi
Mmslittle
2016-03-15 19:33:09
hi
hi
Mmslittle
2016-03-15 19:33:09
hi
hi
raxu
2016-03-15 19:33:09
Hi Marisa!!
Hi Marisa!!
mathcrazymj
2016-03-15 19:33:09
hi!
hi!
jf57
2016-03-15 19:33:15
Hello Jalex!
Hello Jalex!
Longhair343
2016-03-15 19:33:15
Hi Alex,
Hi Alex,
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:33:18
So: David, Jalex, Yulia and I are here to talk about Mathcamp 2016, both the program and the application process. (You’ve got a captive audience with some admissions officers, so now’s your chance to ask your burning questions about applying to camp.)
So: David, Jalex, Yulia and I are here to talk about Mathcamp 2016, both the program and the application process. (You’ve got a captive audience with some admissions officers, so now’s your chance to ask your burning questions about applying to camp.)
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:33:26
First, I’ll say in a few short sentences what Mathcamp is. Then we’ll spend about 30 minutes discussing the program, and 30 minutes discussing the application process, and then we’ll wrap up around 9pm ET.
First, I’ll say in a few short sentences what Mathcamp is. Then we’ll spend about 30 minutes discussing the program, and 30 minutes discussing the application process, and then we’ll wrap up around 9pm ET.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:33:37
So, Mathcamp: it’s a 5-week residential math summer program. This year, it runs Sunday, July 3 through Sunday, August 7th, and it takes place at Colby College in Maine.
So, Mathcamp: it’s a 5-week residential math summer program. This year, it runs Sunday, July 3 through Sunday, August 7th, and it takes place at Colby College in Maine.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:33:49
Really really frequently asked questions, to get them out of the way:
Really really frequently asked questions, to get them out of the way:
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:33:50
Who: We have 120 students per year, from all over the world. It’s 65-75 new campers and 45-55 returning alumni per year. It’s about 1/3 girls, 2/3 boys.
Who: We have 120 students per year, from all over the world. It’s 65-75 new campers and 45-55 returning alumni per year. It’s about 1/3 girls, 2/3 boys.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:34:03
What kind of math? All kinds. Our course catalog has about 150 classes per summer, and you have complete freedom to design your own curriculum.
What kind of math? All kinds. Our course catalog has about 150 classes per summer, and you have complete freedom to design your own curriculum.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:34:14
What else happens? There are a zillion (approximately) activities happening during the evenings and on weekends, and you choose how to spend your time.
What else happens? There are a zillion (approximately) activities happening during the evenings and on weekends, and you choose how to spend your time.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:34:26
How: Admission is competitive. (We expect to admit around 15% of students who apply this year.) The central components are the Qualifying Quiz (http://mathcamp.org/quiz/) and a personal essay (http://mathcamp.org/essay/).
How: Admission is competitive. (We expect to admit around 15% of students who apply this year.) The central components are the Qualifying Quiz (http://mathcamp.org/quiz/) and a personal essay (http://mathcamp.org/essay/).
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:34:35
When: Today is the early admission deadline (if you want an early decision), and the regular deadline to apply is April 15th.
When: Today is the early admission deadline (if you want an early decision), and the regular deadline to apply is April 15th.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:34:46
Scholarships: Yes! We have them. We offer tons of need-based financial aid, and about 20% of our students received full scholarships last year. Every student (US, Canadian, & International; new and returning) is eligible for financial aid.
Scholarships: Yes! We have them. We offer tons of need-based financial aid, and about 20% of our students received full scholarships last year. Every student (US, Canadian, & International; new and returning) is eligible for financial aid.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:34:59
Okay, I think it's time for me to stop talking: we want to get to as many of your questions as possible We'd like to meet *you* along with your question, so here’s a suggested format:
Okay, I think it's time for me to stop talking: we want to get to as many of your questions as possible We'd like to meet *you* along with your question, so here’s a suggested format:
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:35:06
Name / Age / State-or-Country: Question
Name / Age / State-or-Country: Question
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:35:10
e.g.
Julian / 14 / MA: What is the official mascot of Mathcamp?
or
Debbie / Parent / England: What are the cooking facilities like?
e.g.
Julian / 14 / MA: What is the official mascot of Mathcamp?
or
Debbie / Parent / England: What are the cooking facilities like?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:35:19
(But that format is not mandatory - in keeping with the spirit of Mathcamp, just about everything is optional, and we’ll address you any way you like.)
(But that format is not mandatory - in keeping with the spirit of Mathcamp, just about everything is optional, and we’ll address you any way you like.)
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:35:36
Okay, ready? Let’s spend about 7:45 - 8:15 on questions about the program itself: mathematical and residential life at Mathcamp; the people; the campus; the "during" and "after" of Mathcamp. (And then we’ll switch over to discussing the "before": the application process and financial aid.)
Okay, ready? Let’s spend about 7:45 - 8:15 on questions about the program itself: mathematical and residential life at Mathcamp; the people; the campus; the "during" and "after" of Mathcamp. (And then we’ll switch over to discussing the "before": the application process and financial aid.)
SS00090
2016-03-15 19:36:00
The website says that ages 13-18, are there no Middle Schoolers?
The website says that ages 13-18, are there no Middle Schoolers?
girlysponge9
2016-03-15 19:36:00
Is this a day camp or a night camp?
Is this a day camp or a night camp?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:36:13
It's residential - so, both!
It's residential - so, both!
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:36:20
There are students from grades 7 - 12.
There are students from grades 7 - 12.
vatatmaja
2016-03-15 19:37:28
Do you learn competition oriented math, or just higher level math?
Do you learn competition oriented math, or just higher level math?
jf57
2016-03-15 19:37:47
Jaden / 15 / Ontario: Do a lot of the alumni of this program end up going to top schools like MIT or Caltech?
Jaden / 15 / Ontario: Do a lot of the alumni of this program end up going to top schools like MIT or Caltech?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:37:47
We teach both problem-solving and research-focused math, but problem solving is a pretty small part of what happens at Mathcamp. Most classes are more like college and graduate courses.
We teach both problem-solving and research-focused math, but problem solving is a pretty small part of what happens at Mathcamp. Most classes are more like college and graduate courses.
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:37:57
@jf57: We have alumni at various universities, including MIT and Caltech.
@jf57: We have alumni at various universities, including MIT and Caltech.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:38:32
Some students go on to tech schools (like those), but also to lots of other styles of school: private research, big state schools, small liberal arts schools.
Some students go on to tech schools (like those), but also to lots of other styles of school: private research, big state schools, small liberal arts schools.
roed
2016-03-15 19:38:47
@vatatmaja, there is some competition oriented math (both courses and problem solving activities), but that's not the main focus of the courses. Most courses are not focused on competitions.
@vatatmaja, there is some competition oriented math (both courses and problem solving activities), but that's not the main focus of the courses. Most courses are not focused on competitions.
raxu
2016-03-15 19:38:55
We do have the team problem solving session though
We do have the team problem solving session though
roed
2016-03-15 19:39:17
And math relays every Saturday.
And math relays every Saturday.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:39:34
[Group note: I'm seeing a lot of questions about the application process in the queue -- I'm going to hold all of those until the second half, just FYI.]
[Group note: I'm seeing a lot of questions about the application process in the queue -- I'm going to hold all of those until the second half, just FYI.]
jyanyp15
2016-03-15 19:39:37
Jessica / 15 / AZ: Is there any sort of limitations on number of classes you can select? And how are the classes assigned? Are there limits on numbers of students per course?
Jessica / 15 / AZ: Is there any sort of limitations on number of classes you can select? And how are the classes assigned? Are there limits on numbers of students per course?
vatatmaja
2016-03-15 19:39:38
Is there a way to get the course catalog?
Is there a way to get the course catalog?
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:39:41
@ jyanyp15: You get to take at most four classes per day, and you get to choose which classes to go to. You have an Academic advisor that you meet with every week to help you make sure you're accomplishing your mathematical goals.
@ jyanyp15: You get to take at most four classes per day, and you get to choose which classes to go to. You have an Academic advisor that you meet with every week to help you make sure you're accomplishing your mathematical goals.
roed
2016-03-15 19:40:49
@vatatmaja, you can see previous years academics at http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/ (etc)
@vatatmaja, you can see previous years academics at http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/ (etc)
watermellon44
2016-03-15 19:41:22
what kinda activeties
what kinda activeties
jf57
2016-03-15 19:42:07
Are there research opportunities at Mathcamp?
Are there research opportunities at Mathcamp?
roed
2016-03-15 19:42:09
@watermellon44, Board games, white-water rafting, puzzle hunts, trips to national parks (this summer we'll go to Acadia), berry picking, etc.
@watermellon44, Board games, white-water rafting, puzzle hunts, trips to national parks (this summer we'll go to Acadia), berry picking, etc.
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:42:09
@ jf57: Mathcamp mentors are active mathematicians, and sometimes projects at camp have focused on real research questions. Most students won't engage in research during their time at camp, though.
@ jf57: Mathcamp mentors are active mathematicians, and sometimes projects at camp have focused on real research questions. Most students won't engage in research during their time at camp, though.
Sciencewhiz
2016-03-15 19:42:17
Erica / 13 / Florida: Will there be classes for subjects that use math, like computer science?
Erica / 13 / Florida: Will there be classes for subjects that use math, like computer science?
Mmslittle
2016-03-15 19:42:18
Is there any homework
Is there any homework
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:42:19
We do teach computer science classes! (Mostly theoretical computer science, although sometimes crash courses in programming.) Visiting speakers often give guest lectures about connections between math and related fields (CS, Physics, Computational Cognitive Science - you name it).
We do teach computer science classes! (Mostly theoretical computer science, although sometimes crash courses in programming.) Visiting speakers often give guest lectures about connections between math and related fields (CS, Physics, Computational Cognitive Science - you name it).
roed
2016-03-15 19:42:57
@Mmslitte, many classes will have homework, but not all. It's not graded, and generally is more fun than what you might get at school.
@Mmslitte, many classes will have homework, but not all. It's not graded, and generally is more fun than what you might get at school.
mingxu
2016-03-15 19:43:24
Stephen / 12 / TX: Are there any other locations for MathCamp?
Stephen / 12 / TX: Are there any other locations for MathCamp?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:43:26
Only one per year.
Only one per year.
Longhair343
2016-03-15 19:44:09
Kaydence / 19 / NJ: Will there be a lot of Moore Method classes? Abel's Theorem was so fun last year!
Kaydence / 19 / NJ: Will there be a lot of Moore Method classes? Abel's Theorem was so fun last year!
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:44:10
We do often teach classes in interactive formats, like Moore Method. We're definitely planning some for this year!
We do often teach classes in interactive formats, like Moore Method. We're definitely planning some for this year!
haloyo
2016-03-15 19:44:11
Albert / 15 / Canada: Do we get some down time to do other activities during the day? i.e sports
Albert / 15 / Canada: Do we get some down time to do other activities during the day? i.e sports
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:44:13
@haloyo: There are not classes ever scheduled after dinner, and most campers use the time after dinner to do things like sports and board games. You're also free to not go to every class period of the day and spend your time on other things.
@haloyo: There are not classes ever scheduled after dinner, and most campers use the time after dinner to do things like sports and board games. You're also free to not go to every class period of the day and spend your time on other things.
jyanyp15
2016-03-15 19:45:30
What's the difference between first and second year at camp?
What's the difference between first and second year at camp?
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:45:31
@ jyanp15: First year and second year campers have all of the same opportunities and expectations at camp. There are so many opportunities that one year is not enough to try them all!
@ jyanp15: First year and second year campers have all of the same opportunities and expectations at camp. There are so many opportunities that one year is not enough to try them all!
BobCat128
2016-03-15 19:45:33
13/VA: is there a recommended or enforced curfew?
13/VA: is there a recommended or enforced curfew?
roed
2016-03-15 19:46:22
@BobCat128, you have to sign in each night by 10pm and stay in the dorm area after that; lounges close at midnight but we don't force people to sleep (though we encourage you to get sleep so you can be awake in class!)
@BobCat128, you have to sign in each night by 10pm and stay in the dorm area after that; lounges close at midnight but we don't force people to sleep (though we encourage you to get sleep so you can be awake in class!)
jf57
2016-03-15 19:46:52
Is the style of this camp similar to other camps such as HCSSiM?
Is the style of this camp similar to other camps such as HCSSiM?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:46:54
Mathcamp is similar to Hampshire in flavor, but scaled up a bit (more students, broader curriculum). I think if you ask alumni who've been to both programs, they'll say the programs feel different in culture. On the other hand, both programs appeal to really mathy students - like those at AoPS!
Mathcamp is similar to Hampshire in flavor, but scaled up a bit (more students, broader curriculum). I think if you ask alumni who've been to both programs, they'll say the programs feel different in culture. On the other hand, both programs appeal to really mathy students - like those at AoPS!
yayups
2016-03-15 19:47:45
what is Moore Method?
what is Moore Method?
moonpelt101
2016-03-15 19:48:20
Do the youngest and oldest students take the same classes? Is there any separation by age within the camp?
Do the youngest and oldest students take the same classes? Is there any separation by age within the camp?
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:48:21
@moonpelt101: We don't separate campers by age; all campers have the same opportunities as all of the other campers. We often see the youngest and oldest campers in the same classes, though older campers tend toward classes that have more prerequisites
@moonpelt101: We don't separate campers by age; all campers have the same opportunities as all of the other campers. We often see the youngest and oldest campers in the same classes, though older campers tend toward classes that have more prerequisites
roed
2016-03-15 19:48:45
Moore Method is a style of class where students are given a list of definitions, propositions, theorems, etc. They work on them for homework, then present in class and critique each others' proofs. It's in contrast to a lecture.
Moore Method is a style of class where students are given a list of definitions, propositions, theorems, etc. They work on them for homework, then present in class and critique each others' proofs. It's in contrast to a lecture.
Guest_314159
2016-03-15 19:49:04
Is there a correlation between and attendance to MathCamp and admission to top colleges?
Is there a correlation between and attendance to MathCamp and admission to top colleges?
Guest_314159
2016-03-15 19:49:04
I know college shouldn't be a big motivation behind summer camps, but would you say that mathcamp is viewed favorably by the top colleges?
I know college shouldn't be a big motivation behind summer camps, but would you say that mathcamp is viewed favorably by the top colleges?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:49:07
The correlation is: the kinds of smart, creative, independent students who go to summer math programs (like ours, but others, too!) are similarly the kinds of smart, creative, independent students who often head to top colleges. But the students were already on that trajectory, so people don't come to MC in order to get into college.
The correlation is: the kinds of smart, creative, independent students who go to summer math programs (like ours, but others, too!) are similarly the kinds of smart, creative, independent students who often head to top colleges. But the students were already on that trajectory, so people don't come to MC in order to get into college.
VivekA
2016-03-15 19:49:17
12/CA How many classes are there per day?
12/CA How many classes are there per day?
roed
2016-03-15 19:49:52
@VivekA, there are four class periods per day with four choices in each period. Then there's a colloquium and a period for you to work on math with teachers available to help
@VivekA, there are four class periods per day with four choices in each period. Then there's a colloquium and a period for you to work on math with teachers available to help
Meimeijy
2016-03-15 19:50:27
What time do you have to wake up?
What time do you have to wake up?
liopoil
2016-03-15 19:50:38
Julian / 17 / MI: Do people sometimes spend more time on projects than classes? Can you choose what balance to have between those liberally? I know some people don't do projects at all.
Julian / 17 / MI: Do people sometimes spend more time on projects than classes? Can you choose what balance to have between those liberally? I know some people don't do projects at all.
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:50:41
@lipoll: You get to choose how to spend your time; if you find a really engaging project, then you can spend most of your mathematical energy on it if you like. If not, then classes usually give out lots of recommended homework that you can work on.
@lipoll: You get to choose how to spend your time; if you find a really engaging project, then you can spend most of your mathematical energy on it if you like. If not, then classes usually give out lots of recommended homework that you can work on.
chelopiano
2016-03-15 19:50:57
Diego/12/El Salvador: At what time do you have dinner, lunch etc.
Diego/12/El Salvador: At what time do you have dinner, lunch etc.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:51:00
It's typically: breakfast 7-9, lunch 11:30 - 1:30, dinner 5 - 6:30. There's no mandatory wake-up time, but if you want breakfast, you have to get up by 8:50am.
It's typically: breakfast 7-9, lunch 11:30 - 1:30, dinner 5 - 6:30. There's no mandatory wake-up time, but if you want breakfast, you have to get up by 8:50am.
roed
2016-03-15 19:51:02
@Meimeily, the first period usually starts at 9 or so. But I'm trying to get it to start later. I've never been a morning person.
@Meimeily, the first period usually starts at 9 or so. But I'm trying to get it to start later. I've never been a morning person.
Meloby
2016-03-15 19:52:28
What type of classes will be held?
What type of classes will be held?
Math1331Math
2016-03-15 19:52:28
What is a colloquium?
What is a colloquium?
kungfugirl
2016-03-15 19:52:28
13/KY This is the first time I've heard of this, so I'm a bit new . . . how do you register and/or apply and what is covered in the camp? Is there a link I could find basic info?
13/KY This is the first time I've heard of this, so I'm a bit new . . . how do you register and/or apply and what is covered in the camp? Is there a link I could find basic info?
roed
2016-03-15 19:53:08
@Math1331Math, a colloquium is a presentation aimed at everyone (ie it doesn't conflict with other classes). We have about one per day, and often have visitors give them.
@Math1331Math, a colloquium is a presentation aimed at everyone (ie it doesn't conflict with other classes). We have about one per day, and often have visitors give them.
chelopiano
2016-03-15 19:53:25
Do you have to be 13? is 12 okay?
Do you have to be 13? is 12 okay?
chelopiano
2016-03-15 19:53:25
What is the required age?
What is the required age?
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:53:29
@ chelopiano: Historically, we've never made any exceptions to our age policy.
@ chelopiano: Historically, we've never made any exceptions to our age policy.
jf57
2016-03-15 19:53:30
Are there TAs available along with professors?
Are there TAs available along with professors?
roed
2016-03-15 19:54:29
@jf57, the courses are taught by a mix of graduate students and professors. We don't have TAs, since the classes are small enough for you to have access to the teachers.
@jf57, the courses are taught by a mix of graduate students and professors. We don't have TAs, since the classes are small enough for you to have access to the teachers.
AlanDu
2016-03-15 19:54:40
What will the academic advisors be like? Are they young adults or are they older, and how many advisors will there be?
What will the academic advisors be like? Are they young adults or are they older, and how many advisors will there be?
Sciencewhiz
2016-03-15 19:54:58
Is there a way to choose between single dorms or those with more people?
Is there a way to choose between single dorms or those with more people?
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:55:01
@Sciencewhiz: Most campers live in doubles. We give singles to campers who have particular needs or strong preferences for them.
@Sciencewhiz: Most campers live in doubles. We give singles to campers who have particular needs or strong preferences for them.
roed
2016-03-15 19:55:13
Academic advisors are drawn from the teaching staff. They're a mix of graduate students (mostly 22-28 or so) and faculty (older).
Academic advisors are drawn from the teaching staff. They're a mix of graduate students (mostly 22-28 or so) and faculty (older).
lemonmath
2016-03-15 19:55:30
Mansi/15/Canada: What kind of environment is it?
Mansi/15/Canada: What kind of environment is it?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:55:32
That's a tough question, but let me try. It's a very creative, energetic environment. At any given time: someone's working on their problem set; someone's playing frisbee, someone's playing a board game, someone's making up a new game about velociraptor mini-golf, someone's curled up in the library with a book; someone's at choir rehearsal, someone's at a salsa dancing lesson; someone's baking bread; someone's on the phone with their parents, someone's writing a computer program; someone's working on a research project; someone's gone out for pizza with friends. Your task, at Mathcamp, is to do what makes you excited, and you'll find other people who share your passions.
That's a tough question, but let me try. It's a very creative, energetic environment. At any given time: someone's working on their problem set; someone's playing frisbee, someone's playing a board game, someone's making up a new game about velociraptor mini-golf, someone's curled up in the library with a book; someone's at choir rehearsal, someone's at a salsa dancing lesson; someone's baking bread; someone's on the phone with their parents, someone's writing a computer program; someone's working on a research project; someone's gone out for pizza with friends. Your task, at Mathcamp, is to do what makes you excited, and you'll find other people who share your passions.
bp1818
2016-03-15 19:55:40
Brett/15/NY Is there a required dress code?
Brett/15/NY Is there a required dress code?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:55:44
No! It's very casual.
No! It's very casual.
Gallium
2016-03-15 19:55:49
how do cabins and that kind of thing work?
how do cabins and that kind of thing work?
roed
2016-03-15 19:56:15
It's held on a college campus, and we stay in the dorms. Most students will have doubles, as Jalex notes.
It's held on a college campus, and we stay in the dorms. Most students will have doubles, as Jalex notes.
jf57
2016-03-15 19:56:21
Do alumni usually stay in contact with each other?
Do alumni usually stay in contact with each other?
EsJay991
2016-03-15 19:56:30
16/NB: How long is each class?
16/NB: How long is each class?
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:56:35
@EsJay991: Most classes run one hour a day for one week. Some will run for just one or two days. A few classes each summer run for multiple weeks, and a few classes run multiple hours a day for one week.
@EsJay991: Most classes run one hour a day for one week. Some will run for just one or two days. A few classes each summer run for multiple weeks, and a few classes run multiple hours a day for one week.
roed
2016-03-15 19:57:05
@jf57, I find the alum community to be one of the most amazing features of mathcamp. I'm 31 now, and I met many of my closest friends at mathcamp. People definitely stay in touch.
@jf57, I find the alum community to be one of the most amazing features of mathcamp. I'm 31 now, and I met many of my closest friends at mathcamp. People definitely stay in touch.
gxah
2016-03-15 19:57:14
how are roommates assigned?
how are roommates assigned?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 19:57:16
We match up roommates by age, messiness level, and how they plan to spend their evenings (studying, hanging out with friends, sleeping), what time they get up (that's a new constraint this year!). We also try to honor roommate requests, if both people request to share a room.
We match up roommates by age, messiness level, and how they plan to spend their evenings (studying, hanging out with friends, sleeping), what time they get up (that's a new constraint this year!). We also try to honor roommate requests, if both people request to share a room.
Sciencewhiz
2016-03-15 19:57:49
When does the class catalog get posted?
When does the class catalog get posted?
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:57:51
@Sciencewhiz: On the first day of camp, we publish a tentative list of the classes that will run over the summer. At the end of each week, we publish detailed descriptions of the classes running the next week.
@Sciencewhiz: On the first day of camp, we publish a tentative list of the classes that will run over the summer. At the end of each week, we publish detailed descriptions of the classes running the next week.
ilikepie2003
2016-03-15 19:58:24
ooh! what are math relays?
ooh! what are math relays?
roed
2016-03-15 19:59:42
@ilikepie2003, math relays are a team problem solving competition we hold Saturday afternoon (mathcamp classes are Tuesday-Saturday). They're low-key, and fairly fast paced. You only have two questions at a time, and we often have variants (like relays in the pool).
@ilikepie2003, math relays are a team problem solving competition we hold Saturday afternoon (mathcamp classes are Tuesday-Saturday). They're low-key, and fairly fast paced. You only have two questions at a time, and we often have variants (like relays in the pool).
epiclucario
2016-03-15 19:59:44
14/SD: Would I have to know certain material (precalc/calc, etc.) in order to be able to take any classes at Mathcamp? I only have knowledge up to Algebra II.
14/SD: Would I have to know certain material (precalc/calc, etc.) in order to be able to take any classes at Mathcamp? I only have knowledge up to Algebra II.
khanh93
2016-03-15 19:59:46
@epiclucario: If you know enough math to do well on the Qualifying Quiz, then you'll be able to take level-appropriate classes at camp.
@epiclucario: If you know enough math to do well on the Qualifying Quiz, then you'll be able to take level-appropriate classes at camp.
Math1331Math
2016-03-15 20:00:05
What competitions do MathCamp help most in?
What competitions do MathCamp help most in?
Sciencewhiz
2016-03-15 20:00:12
So is there some sort of survey that you send out after you have chosen who is accepted to the camp?
So is there some sort of survey that you send out after you have chosen who is accepted to the camp?
Sciencewhiz
2016-03-15 20:00:12
Do we have access to the kitchens? I love to cook and it would be nice to be able to bake something.
Do we have access to the kitchens? I love to cook and it would be nice to be able to bake something.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:00:37
Re kitchens: Yes!
Re kitchens: Yes!
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:00:56
Re survey: Yes, during the registration process, we collect lots of data about our students.
Re survey: Yes, during the registration process, we collect lots of data about our students.
roed
2016-03-15 20:01:09
@Math1331Math, I would say that mathcamp will teach you a lot of math, but isn't really aimed at any math competitions in particular.
@Math1331Math, I would say that mathcamp will teach you a lot of math, but isn't really aimed at any math competitions in particular.
liopoil
2016-03-15 20:02:10
Julian / 17/ MI: lounges close at midnight, but when do people actually go to sleep?
Julian / 17/ MI: lounges close at midnight, but when do people actually go to sleep?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:02:13
It varies a lot. I'd say between 10 and 12:30 is typical.
It varies a lot. I'd say between 10 and 12:30 is typical.
hliu70
2016-03-15 20:02:36
Are personal devices allowed?
Are personal devices allowed?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:02:37
Like computers and cell phones? Yes.
Like computers and cell phones? Yes.
BobCat128
2016-03-15 20:02:46
is there an orientation at the beginning of camp, or any other necessary events for that matter?
is there an orientation at the beginning of camp, or any other necessary events for that matter?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:02:48
@BobCat128: On the first day of camp, we tell you everything we think you need to know in order to thrive over the summer. Afterward, we have one mandatory morning assembly per week so that we can distribute critical information.
@BobCat128: On the first day of camp, we tell you everything we think you need to know in order to thrive over the summer. Afterward, we have one mandatory morning assembly per week so that we can distribute critical information.
jyanyp15
2016-03-15 20:02:49
Are we allowed to cook food on campus?
Are we allowed to cook food on campus?
roed
2016-03-15 20:02:52
We generally eat in the cafeteria. There are some kitchens, but not enough to cook most meals (and you can't use them on your own). Staff sometimes run baking activities though.
We generally eat in the cafeteria. There are some kitchens, but not enough to cook most meals (and you can't use them on your own). Staff sometimes run baking activities though.
Sciencewhiz
2016-03-15 20:03:18
Wait, there are salsa dancing lessons?
Wait, there are salsa dancing lessons?
WL0410
2016-03-15 20:03:19
Relays in the pool? Like a swimming pool?
Relays in the pool? Like a swimming pool?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:03:21
Yes!
Yes!
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:03:22
@WL0410: Yep! This usually happens once near the end of camp.
@WL0410: Yep! This usually happens once near the end of camp.
bearytasty
2016-03-15 20:03:30
is it ok to practice violin at camp?
is it ok to practice violin at camp?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:03:31
Yes!
Yes!
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:03:41
And there are practice rooms for serious musicians.
And there are practice rooms for serious musicians.
moowoof
2016-03-15 20:05:09
Does a student get to know what course(s) s/he will be taking before s/he goes to the camp?
Does a student get to know what course(s) s/he will be taking before s/he goes to the camp?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:05:11
You'll get a chance to look at the course catalog in June, before camp starts, but you'll really make those decisions once you get to camp. The first step is to choose an academic advisor, and then you'll have a one-on-one meeting with your advisor to talk about your plans for the summer - what you're interested in studying, and what MC classes will be the best fit.
You'll get a chance to look at the course catalog in June, before camp starts, but you'll really make those decisions once you get to camp. The first step is to choose an academic advisor, and then you'll have a one-on-one meeting with your advisor to talk about your plans for the summer - what you're interested in studying, and what MC classes will be the best fit.
jyanyp15
2016-03-15 20:05:20
Do the practice rooms include pianos?
Do the practice rooms include pianos?
moowoof
2016-03-15 20:05:20
Is there a piano in the practice room?
Is there a piano in the practice room?
yayups
2016-03-15 20:05:22
13/OR do you have to choose classes or can you just show up to any class any day?
13/OR do you have to choose classes or can you just show up to any class any day?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:05:22
Yes!
Yes!
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:05:26
@yayups: You have the freedom to show up to different classes on different days, though it's generally best to stay with a week-long class for a whole week, since different days of the same class build on each other.
@yayups: You have the freedom to show up to different classes on different days, though it's generally best to stay with a week-long class for a whole week, since different days of the same class build on each other.
watermellon44
2016-03-15 20:05:34
is there unlimited food?
is there unlimited food?
roed
2016-03-15 20:05:36
Yeah, food is generally unlimited.
Yeah, food is generally unlimited.
bearytasty
2016-03-15 20:06:23
yay practice rooms
yay practice rooms
hliu70
2016-03-15 20:06:27
How large is the campus?
How large is the campus?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:06:29
714 acres.
714 acres.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:06:44
(To be exact.) But our dorm, dining hall, and classrooms are all near one another.
(To be exact.) But our dorm, dining hall, and classrooms are all near one another.
BobCat128
2016-03-15 20:06:54
which university is Camp at this year?
which university is Camp at this year?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:07:02
Colby College in Waterville, ME (www.colby.edu)
Colby College in Waterville, ME (www.colby.edu)
bp1818
2016-03-15 20:07:09
What are weekends usually like?
What are weekends usually like?
roed
2016-03-15 20:07:11
Some people relax on the weekends, sleep in, play board games, etc. There are also lots of field trips (white-water rafting, puzzle hunt, Acadia National Park, berry-picking, contra dancing...)
Some people relax on the weekends, sleep in, play board games, etc. There are also lots of field trips (white-water rafting, puzzle hunt, Acadia National Park, berry-picking, contra dancing...)
AlanDu
2016-03-15 20:08:14
Is it easy to make friends at Mathcamp?
Is it easy to make friends at Mathcamp?
roed
2016-03-15 20:08:16
When I was a camper, I found making friends at mathcamp to be very easy. You will likely have a lot in common with other campers, and when you're around each other a lot, making friends is much easier.
When I was a camper, I found making friends at mathcamp to be very easy. You will likely have a lot in common with other campers, and when you're around each other a lot, making friends is much easier.
AstroCarp
2016-03-15 20:08:20
What are the rules about leaving campus?
What are the rules about leaving campus?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:08:22
@AstroCarp: Campers can check out to leave campus in groups of at least three. They have to tell a staff member where they're going and when they'll be back, so that we know to check up on you if you're late.
@AstroCarp: Campers can check out to leave campus in groups of at least three. They have to tell a staff member where they're going and when they'll be back, so that we know to check up on you if you're late.
Gallium
2016-03-15 20:08:54
Will we be able to access all of campus?
Will we be able to access all of campus?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:08:57
Yes!
Yes!
AllenWang314
2016-03-15 20:09:05
At 6:30 there are "evening activities" can I go back to the dorm and do other stuff like aops classes?
At 6:30 there are "evening activities" can I go back to the dorm and do other stuff like aops classes?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:09:07
Yes!
Yes!
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:09:12
That's an evening activity (for you).
That's an evening activity (for you).
BobCat128
2016-03-15 20:09:16
Are we sharing the campus with other camps?
Are we sharing the campus with other camps?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:10:13
@ BobCat128: Yes
@ BobCat128: Yes
roed
2016-03-15 20:10:35
yes
yes
roed
2016-03-15 20:10:42
We are sharing campus with other groups
We are sharing campus with other groups
AlanDu
2016-03-15 20:11:22
What will the visiting speakers be talking about?
What will the visiting speakers be talking about?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:11:24
@AlanDu: Visiting speakers talk about lots of things! Usually their talks are focused in their area of research.
@AlanDu: Visiting speakers talk about lots of things! Usually their talks are focused in their area of research.
8_8
2016-03-15 20:11:45
Could you list some of the most popular courses people take?
Could you list some of the most popular courses people take?
roed
2016-03-15 20:11:54
Check out http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/4WeekSchedule.pdf for last year's schedule.
Check out http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/4WeekSchedule.pdf for last year's schedule.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:12:13
I think Combinatorial Game Theory might be the historically most popular class
I think Combinatorial Game Theory might be the historically most popular class
AstroCarp
2016-03-15 20:12:25
Do we get t-shirts / apparel?
Do we get t-shirts / apparel?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:12:27
@AstroCarp: We give out Mathcamp T-shirts at the end of camp. Sometimes we run tie-dye as a camp activity, for a different kind of camp apparel.
@AstroCarp: We give out Mathcamp T-shirts at the end of camp. Sometimes we run tie-dye as a camp activity, for a different kind of camp apparel.
addisonzxy
2016-03-15 20:12:44
15/CA Are there specific things that we need to bring to the camp?
15/CA Are there specific things that we need to bring to the camp?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:12:51
There's a suggested packing list: http://www.mathcamp.org/currentstudents/precamp/whattobring.php
There's a suggested packing list: http://www.mathcamp.org/currentstudents/precamp/whattobring.php
epiclucario
2016-03-15 20:13:15
(not trying to offend anyone) What is the general demographic of Mathcampers? Are there minorities (by gender, race, age, etc.) among the campers or is it more "balanced"?
(not trying to offend anyone) What is the general demographic of Mathcampers? Are there minorities (by gender, race, age, etc.) among the campers or is it more "balanced"?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:13:18
It's a big mix. Usually, about 1/3 girls, 2/3 boys; about 75% US, 10-15% Canadian, and 10-15% from other countries.
It's a big mix. Usually, about 1/3 girls, 2/3 boys; about 75% US, 10-15% Canadian, and 10-15% from other countries.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:13:24
The mean, median, and mode of the age distrituion are almost always 16. On the first day of Mathcamp 2015:
4 campers age 13
8 campers age 14
23 campers age 15
35 campers age 16
33 campers age 17
17 campers age 18
0 campers age 19
The mean, median, and mode of the age distrituion are almost always 16. On the first day of Mathcamp 2015:
4 campers age 13
8 campers age 14
23 campers age 15
35 campers age 16
33 campers age 17
17 campers age 18
0 campers age 19
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:13:39
(That was slightly more young students than we usually see, and we do once in a while have 19-year-olds.)
(That was slightly more young students than we usually see, and we do once in a while have 19-year-olds.)
Math1331Math
2016-03-15 20:13:44
How are the classes run? Are they more proof-oriented or problem solving based?
How are the classes run? Are they more proof-oriented or problem solving based?
roed
2016-03-15 20:13:46
Classes vary based on the instructor, but more of them are about cool topics that you wouldn't normally see in high school than about problem solving. We usually have 1 or 2 problem solving classes each week.
Classes vary based on the instructor, but more of them are about cool topics that you wouldn't normally see in high school than about problem solving. We usually have 1 or 2 problem solving classes each week.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:14:07
(One or two per day, that is, that continue throughout the week.)
(One or two per day, that is, that continue throughout the week.)
AllenWang314
2016-03-15 20:14:25
Are the courses aimed toward college or usamo/imo training?
Are the courses aimed toward college or usamo/imo training?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:14:30
More towards college, but it's a mix.
More towards college, but it's a mix.
himaximushi
2016-03-15 20:14:41
What are the pepper things in this link? http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/4WeekSchedule.pdf
What are the pepper things in this link? http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/4WeekSchedule.pdf
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:14:49
@himaximushi: Chili peppers! Some classes are "spicier" than others, which means they move at a faster pace and introduce higher-level ideas.
@himaximushi: Chili peppers! Some classes are "spicier" than others, which means they move at a faster pace and introduce higher-level ideas.
hliu70
2016-03-15 20:15:23
Does the homework have to be printed or hand-written? Or does it vary from class to class?
Does the homework have to be printed or hand-written? Or does it vary from class to class?
girlysponge9
2016-03-15 20:15:23
Do we have homework and if we do, is it mandatory that we do it?
Do we have homework and if we do, is it mandatory that we do it?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:15:25
Homework is optional, but most people opt in. You mostly handwrite, but there's a computer lab in case you wanted to TeX something up.
Homework is optional, but most people opt in.
You mostly handwrite, but there's a computer lab in case you wanted to TeX something up.
BobCat128
2016-03-15 20:15:52
Can classes be "full" if they're too popular?
Can classes be "full" if they're too popular?
roed
2016-03-15 20:15:58
No, we'll just move them to a bigger room.
No, we'll just move them to a bigger room.
AllenWang314
2016-03-15 20:16:07
Is there a lights out time?
Is there a lights out time?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:16:08
(And add a TA if need be.)
(And add a TA if need be.)
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:16:09
@AllenWang134: On weeknights, we ask campers to be in their rooms and not make loud noise after midnight, but we don't force them to be silent or turn their lights out.
@AllenWang134: On weeknights, we ask campers to be in their rooms and not make loud noise after midnight, but we don't force them to be silent or turn their lights out.
ishankhare
2016-03-15 20:16:10
Where is MathCamp 2016?
Where is MathCamp 2016?
roed
2016-03-15 20:16:19
Colby College, in Maine.
Colby College, in Maine.
Superfan123
2016-03-15 20:16:26
is it a boarding camp?
is it a boarding camp?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:16:27
Yes!
Yes!
AllenWang314
2016-03-15 20:16:38
Sign in lasts two hours, what exactly happens? can it be shortened? Why does it take so long?
Sign in lasts two hours, what exactly happens? can it be shortened? Why does it take so long?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:16:39
@AllenWang134: Students only have to spend a few minutes signing in, but they have a two-hour window to do it in.
@AllenWang134: Students only have to spend a few minutes signing in, but they have a two-hour window to do it in.
Tega
2016-03-15 20:17:04
Is the homework proof based or more computational?
Is the homework proof based or more computational?
chezbgone
2016-03-15 20:17:19
Are we allowed to switch classes half-way into the week?
Are we allowed to switch classes half-way into the week?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:17:21
@chezbgone2: Yes! It's a good idea to talk to the instructor before doing so, so that they can tell you about what's been covered so far
@chezbgone2: Yes! It's a good idea to talk to the instructor before doing so, so that they can tell you about what's been covered so far
roed
2016-03-15 20:17:33
@Tega, It's a mix, but it generally doesn't have the feeling of "practice this a bunch in order to get better at it"
@Tega, It's a mix, but it generally doesn't have the feeling of "practice this a bunch in order to get better at it"
AllenWang314
2016-03-15 20:18:20
During some of the blocks for classes ex: 10:10-11:00 bloack, are we allowed to take no classes?
During some of the blocks for classes ex: 10:10-11:00 bloack, are we allowed to take no classes?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:18:22
@AllenWang314: Yes! In fact, we usually encourage students *not* to take 4 classes at once, because that's just too much math for lots of people.
@AllenWang314: Yes! In fact, we usually encourage students *not* to take 4 classes at once, because that's just too much math for lots of people.
Sciencewhiz
2016-03-15 20:18:54
What is sign in?
What is sign in?
Superfan123
2016-03-15 20:18:54
Then what do you do in the time when everyone else is signing in?
Then what do you do in the time when everyone else is signing in?
roed
2016-03-15 20:18:57
There's a staff member sitting in the lounge between 8 and 10 each night. You have to come visit them at some point, and then stay in the dorms afterward. It only takes a minute, and you can do other stuff during that period.
There's a staff member sitting in the lounge between 8 and 10 each night. You have to come visit them at some point, and then stay in the dorms afterward. It only takes a minute, and you can do other stuff during that period.
MathStudent2002
2016-03-15 20:19:07
is the food good
is the food good
jf57
2016-03-15 20:19:14
Will there be any courses on programming in LaTeX this year?
Will there be any courses on programming in LaTeX this year?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:19:16
@jf57: We usually have an informal workshop at some point during camp, but usually not a full class
@jf57: We usually have an informal workshop at some point during camp, but usually not a full class
roed
2016-03-15 20:19:44
MathStudent2002, It's one of the things we select campuses based on. It's good, though cafeteria food can get tiring after a while.
MathStudent2002, It's one of the things we select campuses based on.
It's good, though cafeteria food can get tiring after a while.
Wiggle Wam
2016-03-15 20:20:02
You can always spot a sign-in staff member as they'll be wearing an absurd hat.
You can always spot a sign-in staff member as they'll be wearing an absurd hat.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:20:11
Okay! Those were great questions about the program.
Okay! Those were great questions about the program.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:20:16
Let’s spend about 8:15 - 8:45 on questions about applications and financial aid: eligibility, the application process, scholarships. (And then we’ll open up to any kinds of questions before we wrap up.)
Let’s spend about 8:15 - 8:45 on questions about applications and financial aid: eligibility, the application process, scholarships. (And then we’ll open up to any kinds of questions before we wrap up.)
Tryharder
2016-03-15 20:20:23
do they have food that copperates with allergies
do they have food that copperates with allergies
MSTang
2016-03-15 20:20:47
Do you have any ideas what Moore-Method classes will be held?
Do you have any ideas what Moore-Method classes will be held?
roed
2016-03-15 20:20:57
Not yet. Still working on the schedule for this summer.
Not yet. Still working on the schedule for this summer.
himaximushi
2016-03-15 20:21:27
Can you tell us the cost?
Can you tell us the cost?
chelopiano
2016-03-15 20:21:27
how much does the camp cost?
how much does the camp cost?
SS00090
2016-03-15 20:21:27
Does it cost money?
Does it cost money?
ak1234
2016-03-15 20:21:27
Is Mathcamp free for aops students?
Is Mathcamp free for aops students?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:21:30
The full cost of the program is $4,000, which includes tuition, room & board, local transportation (to and from the airport, e.g.), field trips, your camp t-shirt - the whole program. The only thing not included is your flights to and from camp.
The full cost of the program is $4,000, which includes tuition, room & board, local transportation (to and from the airport, e.g.), field trips, your camp t-shirt - the whole program. The only thing not included is your flights to and from camp.
roed
2016-03-15 20:21:34
@Tryharder, yes we have food for people with allergies.
@Tryharder, yes we have food for people with allergies.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:21:42
We offer LOTS of need-based financial aid, including full scholarships and travel subsidies (i.e. plane tickets to camp).
We offer LOTS of need-based financial aid, including full scholarships and travel subsidies (i.e. plane tickets to camp).
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:21:47
In fact: Mathcamp is totally free for families in the US and Canada with household income under $60,000. We also give lots of partial and full scholarships to middle-income families.
In fact: Mathcamp is totally free for families in the US and Canada with household income under $60,000. We also give lots of partial and full scholarships to middle-income families.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:21:52
International students are eligible for financial aid, too.
International students are eligible for financial aid, too.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:22:01
(Including full scholarships and plane tickets!)
(Including full scholarships and plane tickets!)
beanielove2
2016-03-15 20:22:23
Question: When you say that the top scorers on USAMTS get scholarships into the camp, do you mean students who get like 70 and above or just like the top 30 students? In other words, what's the floor for "top scorers?"
Question: When you say that the top scorers on USAMTS get scholarships into the camp, do you mean students who get like 70 and above or just like the top 30 students? In other words, what's the floor for "top scorers?"
SS00090
2016-03-15 20:22:34
How hard is it to get in? Do you ask AMC, AIME, etc. scores?
How hard is it to get in? Do you ask AMC, AIME, etc. scores?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:22:34
We do give small merit awards to the top 30 girls and top 30 boys on the USAMTS competition. We also give small merit awards to top scorers on the Math Prize for Girls competition. (It's how we sponsor each program.)
We do give small merit awards to the top 30 girls and top 30 boys on the USAMTS competition. We also give small merit awards to top scorers on the Math Prize for Girls competition. (It's how we sponsor each program.)
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:22:37
@SS00090: If you self-report your competition scores, we'll take them into account. If you haven't taken any contests, that's okay! The only proof you need to give us that you're strong enough for camp is your Qualifying Quiz
@SS00090: If you self-report your competition scores, we'll take them into account. If you haven't taken any contests, that's okay! The only proof you need to give us that you're strong enough for camp is your Qualifying Quiz
chessinfinity1011
2016-03-15 20:23:28
Is there any differences between early and regular application, for example is there a quota for each or how does admission based on submission work?
Is there any differences between early and regular application, for example is there a quota for each or how does admission based on submission work?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:23:31
Nope, the process and the rate of admission are the same. The only difference is the date of the deadlines.
Nope, the process and the rate of admission are the same. The only difference is the date of the deadlines.
moonpelt101
2016-03-15 20:24:21
So there's no advantage for applying early besides knowing results earlier?
So there's no advantage for applying early besides knowing results earlier?
ygorlina
2016-03-15 20:24:24
Correct
Correct
PixelPlex
2016-03-15 20:24:34
How many questions should I answer on the quizzes?
How many questions should I answer on the quizzes?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:24:35
@PixelPlex: You should answer as many as you can figure out! Solving more questions can only help your application.
@PixelPlex: You should answer as many as you can figure out! Solving more questions can only help your application.
eveningstarandlion
2016-03-15 20:24:39
To make the camp, I'm assuming there is a type of examination or quiz?
To make the camp, I'm assuming there is a type of examination or quiz?
SS00090
2016-03-15 20:25:08
Does it cost to apply?
Does it cost to apply?
roed
2016-03-15 20:25:14
No, it's free to apply.
No, it's free to apply.
chessinfinity1011
2016-03-15 20:25:34
Is there any difference in early and regular admission, for example will spaces fill up faster for early admission due to a quota?
Is there any difference in early and regular admission, for example will spaces fill up faster for early admission due to a quota?
Sciencewhiz
2016-03-15 20:25:34
Does the personal essay count towards getting into camp?
Does the personal essay count towards getting into camp?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:25:54
Yep, we use your whole application - Quiz, essay, recommendation letters, and math background - to get a picture of you as a student and as a person we might get to spend the summer with. Everything counts!
Yep, we use your whole application - Quiz, essay, recommendation letters, and math background - to get a picture of you as a student and as a person we might get to spend the summer with. Everything counts!
jf57
2016-03-15 20:26:59
If I finish my application by the early decision deadline, but one of my recommendation letters do not come in by the 17th, will i be put in the regular action pool?
If I finish my application by the early decision deadline, but one of my recommendation letters do not come in by the 17th, will i be put in the regular action pool?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:27:00
You should encourage your recommendation letter-writers to get their letters in on time, but we're not robots - talk to us if there's a special case.
You should encourage your recommendation letter-writers to get their letters in on time, but we're not robots - talk to us if there's a special case.
chessinfinity1011
2016-03-15 20:27:15
should the qualifying quiz be in latex or is handwritten ok?
should the qualifying quiz be in latex or is handwritten ok?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:27:17
Handwritten is okay! Just scan it and send us a PDF.
Handwritten is okay! Just scan it and send us a PDF.
moonpelt101
2016-03-15 20:27:30
Do more people apply early or regular?
Do more people apply early or regular?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:27:33
We offer an early deadline in case people want an early decision: e.g. because they are applying to other programs that have similar deadlines, or need to get started on a visa / plane ticket as an international student. Most students take the extra month to work on the Quiz.
We offer an early deadline in case people want an early decision: e.g. because they are applying to other programs that have similar deadlines, or need to get started on a visa / plane ticket as an international student. Most students take the extra month to work on the Quiz.
chessinfinity1011
2016-03-15 20:27:56
but if people are admitted earlier, then won't their be less space for people in the regular date
but if people are admitted earlier, then won't their be less space for people in the regular date
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:27:58
We try to keep the admissions rate consistent across the season.
We try to keep the admissions rate consistent across the season.
pierre11134
2016-03-15 20:28:22
Can answer half of a question and put it on my solutions? ie. do part a but not b
Can answer half of a question and put it on my solutions? ie. do part a but not b
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:28:24
@pierre11134: Yes! We'll award partial credit for any ideas that go toward solving the problem.
@pierre11134: Yes! We'll award partial credit for any ideas that go toward solving the problem.
yayups
2016-03-15 20:28:52
Is it fine if my essay is a bit large (i.e. 1000+ words)
Is it fine if my essay is a bit large (i.e. 1000+ words)
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:28:54
Sure. Most applicants will keep it to a page, but feel free to express your ideas at their natural length.
Sure. Most applicants will keep it to a page, but feel free to express your ideas at their natural length.
jf57
2016-03-15 20:29:39
is the early deadline at 11:59 pacific or eastern time?
is the early deadline at 11:59 pacific or eastern time?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:29:41
Central time, actually.
Central time, actually.
hliu70
2016-03-15 20:29:49
Who grades the application?
Who grades the application?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:29:51
@hliu70: The applications are graded by current and former Mathcamp staff, precisely the people who know what makes a student qualified for Mathcamp!
@hliu70: The applications are graded by current and former Mathcamp staff, precisely the people who know what makes a student qualified for Mathcamp!
Eulersbestfriend271
2016-03-15 20:30:14
So since I qualified via USAMTS, do I still need to write an essay and get recommendation letters?
So since I qualified via USAMTS, do I still need to write an essay and get recommendation letters?
BobCat128
2016-03-15 20:30:14
Re-addmission is guaranteed, right?
Re-addmission is guaranteed, right?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:30:21
@E: Yes! The only way to qualify is to apply. (Even if you're a top scorer on a competition.)
@E: Yes! The only way to qualify is to apply. (Even if you're a top scorer on a competition.)
hliu70
2016-03-15 20:31:23
how is the Quiz scored? like on what scale?
how is the Quiz scored? like on what scale?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:31:25
We don't release quiz scores; the only feedback you'll get is whether or not we accept you. We typically release solutions, so you can check afterward which parts you got and which parts you didn't.
We don't release quiz scores; the only feedback you'll get is whether or not we accept you. We typically release solutions, so you can check afterward which parts you got and which parts you didn't.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:31:50
We sometimes run Math Jams here to discuss the Quiz solutions (past examples: http://www.mathcamp.org/prospectiveapplicants/quiz/solutions.php).
We sometimes run Math Jams here to discuss the Quiz solutions (past examples: http://www.mathcamp.org/prospectiveapplicants/quiz/solutions.php).
Eulersbestfriend271
2016-03-15 20:32:26
So I need to write an essay and get recommendations?
So I need to write an essay and get recommendations?
roed
2016-03-15 20:32:28
Yes
Yes
jf57
2016-03-15 20:33:06
If I get deferred to regular action, would I be able to submit another solution or two for the qualifying quiz if I solve them?
If I get deferred to regular action, would I be able to submit another solution or two for the qualifying quiz if I solve them?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:33:08
In fact, yes. So, for context: During early admissions, we make decisions of “admitted” and “not admitted” for almost all the applicants, but we do hold onto some candidates (“defer”) whose applications we'd like to see in a broader context, and defer them to regular admissions and give a decision when we see the whole pool.
If we ask you to wait until the Regular Action season for a decision, then we will offer the option of reopening your application so that you can edit it (e.g. to update your Quiz), since you are now essentially applying at the same time as the Regular Action candidates. Since students usually apply early for a good reason (that is, they need to hear back from us sooner rather than later), we use this option sparingly.
In fact, yes. So, for context: During early admissions, we make decisions of “admitted” and “not admitted” for almost all the applicants, but we do hold onto some candidates (“defer”) whose applications we'd like to see in a broader context, and defer them to regular admissions and give a decision when we see the whole pool.
If we ask you to wait until the Regular Action season for a decision, then we will offer the option of reopening your application so that you can edit it (e.g. to update your Quiz), since you are now essentially applying at the same time as the Regular Action candidates. Since students usually apply early for a good reason (that is, they need to hear back from us sooner rather than later), we use this option sparingly.
haloyo
2016-03-15 20:33:18
Can my personal recommendation letter be written by a teacher who monitors a club that I lead?
Can my personal recommendation letter be written by a teacher who monitors a club that I lead?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:33:21
Yes!
Yes!
awesomeclaw
2016-03-15 20:33:47
is it suggested to bring a computer?
is it suggested to bring a computer?
chezbgone
2016-03-15 20:33:48
what is the acceptance rate of the camp?
what is the acceptance rate of the camp?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:33:51
I expect it will be about 15% this year.
I expect it will be about 15% this year.
AMN300
2016-03-15 20:34:22
do you grade relatively harshly for nontrivial progress for the quiz (like with Olympiads) or more like the usamts
do you grade relatively harshly for nontrivial progress for the quiz (like with Olympiads) or more like the usamts
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:34:24
@AMN300: We give credit for partial solutions; I'd like to say that we're more generous than typical Olympiad scoring. If you have some ideas but not a full solution for a problem, tell us about it!
@AMN300: We give credit for partial solutions; I'd like to say that we're more generous than typical Olympiad scoring. If you have some ideas but not a full solution for a problem, tell us about it!
roed
2016-03-15 20:34:33
@a, it will be useful, but a lot of camp actually happens offline.
@a, it will be useful, but a lot of camp actually happens offline.
hliu70
2016-03-15 20:34:51
Is that 15% rate included alumni?
Is that 15% rate included alumni?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:35:06
Alumni are (mostly) guaranteed readmission, so that's just for new students.
Alumni are (mostly) guaranteed readmission, so that's just for new students.
chessinfinity1011
2016-03-15 20:35:21
if our proof is not rigorous but more qualitative, for example we find a pattern, are we allowed to use the patterns we find
if our proof is not rigorous but more qualitative, for example we find a pattern, are we allowed to use the patterns we find
jyanyp15
2016-03-15 20:35:21
Do you have to be a top scorer in a competition to attend? i.e. Does a bad competition score detract from the application?
Do you have to be a top scorer in a competition to attend? i.e. Does a bad competition score detract from the application?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:35:23
Not at all! Many of our students have never done a competition before.
Not at all! Many of our students have never done a competition before.
roed
2016-03-15 20:35:51
@chessinfinity, you should certainly include patterns you observe, though to get full credit you will usually need to prove that your patterns are correct.
@chessinfinity, you should certainly include patterns you observe, though to get full credit you will usually need to prove that your patterns are correct.
lemonmath
2016-03-15 20:36:56
What's the quiz website again?
What's the quiz website again?
liopoil
2016-03-15 20:37:48
Is it encouraged to look up ideas for solving homework problems or encouraged to come up with the inspiration independently by struggling through it with peers?
Is it encouraged to look up ideas for solving homework problems or encouraged to come up with the inspiration independently by struggling through it with peers?
roed
2016-03-15 20:37:50
At camp, working together on homework is very much encouraged. On the qualifying quiz, we expect your solutions to be your own.
At camp, working together on homework is very much encouraged. On the qualifying quiz, we expect your solutions to be your own.
SS00090
2016-03-15 20:38:49
are there quizzes at the camp? or is it just lessons?
are there quizzes at the camp? or is it just lessons?
roed
2016-03-15 20:38:51
We don't have grades or exams at camp, though there is a weekly team problem solving competition.
We don't have grades or exams at camp, though there is a weekly team problem solving competition.
moowoof
2016-03-15 20:39:22
What documentations do you need for financial aid application?
What documentations do you need for financial aid application?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:39:25
At the time of registration, we ask for your family's most recent tax return (or equivalent).
At the time of registration, we ask for your family's most recent tax return (or equivalent).
math1012
2016-03-15 20:39:29
do you get to select your own teams?
do you get to select your own teams?
roed
2016-03-15 20:39:39
No, though you can for relays.
No, though you can for relays.
Wiggle Wam
2016-03-15 20:39:43
Is there a minimum income necessary for financial aid eligibility? How much are your family's circumstances taken into account?
Is there a minimum income necessary for financial aid eligibility? How much are your family's circumstances taken into account?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:39:46
There's no explicit minimum. We work with each family of an admitted student who requests aid to make sure that every qualified student can come to camp. We definitely take special cirucmstances into account.
There's no explicit minimum. We work with each family of an admitted student who requests aid to make sure that every qualified student can come to camp. We definitely take special cirucmstances into account.
awesomeclaw
2016-03-15 20:39:52
how many questions do we usually have to get to get in?
how many questions do we usually have to get to get in?
jf57
2016-03-15 20:39:52
will answering only 4 out of the 6 questions negatively effect my chances of gaining acceptance?
will answering only 4 out of the 6 questions negatively effect my chances of gaining acceptance?
math1012
2016-03-15 20:39:52
how many admission quiz questions do applicants who get in normally do?
how many admission quiz questions do applicants who get in normally do?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:39:54
There isn't a good answer to this. The bar for admission changes from year to year, different parts of different questions have different weights, and we give partial credit for answers that make progress but aren't correct.
There isn't a good answer to this. The bar for admission changes from year to year, different parts of different questions have different weights, and we give partial credit for answers that make progress but aren't correct.
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:40:26
The best strategy for the Quiz is to write solutions for all the problems you solved and show us your progress for all the problems that you tried
The best strategy for the Quiz is to write solutions for all the problems you solved and show us your progress for all the problems that you tried
pkd
2016-03-15 20:40:51
in the qualifying quiz, if i have already completely solved a problem, then is it ok to show some additional thoughts (that helped me to lead to the solution, or some more detail that was skipped in my formal solution) after the formal solution is shown? The reason i ask is because i dont want to diminish the elegance of my solution by adding too much detail and background thoughts, yet on the other hand its a dilemma to not put in enough detail for fear of making the solution too brief so that
in the qualifying quiz, if i have already completely solved a problem, then is it ok to show some additional thoughts (that helped me to lead to the solution, or some more detail that was skipped in my formal solution) after the formal solution is shown? The reason i ask is because i dont want to diminish the elegance of my solution by adding too much detail and background thoughts, yet on the other hand its a dilemma to not put in enough detail for fear of making the solution too brief so that
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:40:58
There is nothing wrong with a bare-bones solution if it's 100% rigorous and correct. However, in our experience, many students are not very good at judging their own solutions: we often get applicants who think they've solved a problem completely, when in fact they have barely scratched the surface. For this reason, it may be in your interest to provide us with some of the background to your "bare-bones" solution: this background might show us that you had some good insights, maybe even pointing in the right direction, while the final solution will only tell us that you didn't get there.
There is nothing wrong with a bare-bones solution if it's 100% rigorous and correct. However, in our experience, many students are not very good at judging their own solutions: we often get applicants who think they've solved a problem completely, when in fact they have barely scratched the surface. For this reason, it may be in your interest to provide us with some of the background to your "bare-bones" solution: this background might show us that you had some good insights, maybe even pointing in the right direction, while the final solution will only tell us that you didn't get there.
pierre11134
2016-03-15 20:41:20
how do you have space for new comers if people who have gone before are getting in no matter what and the other people leaving are 12th graders
how do you have space for new comers if people who have gone before are getting in no matter what and the other people leaving are 12th graders
roed
2016-03-15 20:41:45
@pierre, not everyone is able to come back. We have a cap on the number of alums that can return, but we've never reached it.
@pierre, not everyone is able to come back. We have a cap on the number of alums that can return, but we've never reached it.
awesomeclaw
2016-03-15 20:42:09
how many people go in total?
how many people go in total?
roed
2016-03-15 20:42:24
Camp is usually between 110 and 120 students.
Camp is usually between 110 and 120 students.
epiclucario
2016-03-15 20:42:31
Can you go more in-depth into financial aid? About how much (on average) does a Mathcamper from a medium-income household pay to go?
Can you go more in-depth into financial aid? About how much (on average) does a Mathcamper from a medium-income household pay to go?
T314159
2016-03-15 20:42:31
About what income level tends to get significant financial aid?
About what income level tends to get significant financial aid?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:42:33
There's a chart for estimation here: http://www.mathcamp.org/prospectiveapplicants/scholarships.php
There's a chart for estimation here: http://www.mathcamp.org/prospectiveapplicants/scholarships.php
awesomeclaw
2016-03-15 20:42:49
do you "grade" our solutions, like give points out of 7 or something and use that?
do you "grade" our solutions, like give points out of 7 or something and use that?
roed
2016-03-15 20:43:03
Yep, solutions are graded, though different problems are worth different numbers of points sometimes.
Yep, solutions are graded, though different problems are worth different numbers of points sometimes.
Lord.of.AMC
2016-03-15 20:43:24
what are the chances of getting in if we make progress on all the problems?
what are the chances of getting in if we make progress on all the problems?
awesomeclaw
2016-03-15 20:43:24
how many questions do we have to solve in order to get in (on average)
how many questions do we have to solve in order to get in (on average)
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:43:33
Hard to say, for both. But remember that the Qualifying Quiz is not a math contest: your ultimate goal is not to maximize your score but to show us, through your solutions, how you think about math.
Hard to say, for both. But remember that the Qualifying Quiz is not a math contest: your ultimate goal is not to maximize your score but to show us, through your solutions, how you think about math.
EsJay991
2016-03-15 20:44:31
16/NB: I received reference letter from teacher. Is it possible to upload the scanned pdf of the reference letter?
16/NB: I received reference letter from teacher. Is it possible to upload the scanned pdf of the reference letter?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:44:32
You can have your teacher transmit the recommendation through our online system (recommended), or they can send it to us directly. Applicants can't sumbit their own recommendation letters, though.
You can have your teacher transmit the recommendation through our online system (recommended), or they can send it to us directly. Applicants can't sumbit their own recommendation letters, though.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:45:07
Okay! Thanks for all the great questions about the application process.
Okay! Thanks for all the great questions about the application process.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:45:10
The field is open for any questions about Mathcamp, and we’ll wrap up at 9pm ET.
The field is open for any questions about Mathcamp, and we’ll wrap up at 9pm ET.
AMN300
2016-03-15 20:45:18
so should we include all insights, motivation, and dead ends on a solution or should we just do a standard Olympiad-style writeup
so should we include all insights, motivation, and dead ends on a solution or should we just do a standard Olympiad-style writeup
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:45:20
@AMN300: If you don't have a full solution, showing us insights and motivations will help your score. If you thought of something particularly clever and want to include it, please do!
@AMN300: If you don't have a full solution, showing us insights and motivations will help your score. If you thought of something particularly clever and want to include it, please do!
Royalreter1
2016-03-15 20:45:25
Is there wifi/do we need to bring ethernet cables?
Is there wifi/do we need to bring ethernet cables?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:45:27
Yep, there's wifi.
Yep, there's wifi.
hliu70
2016-03-15 20:46:18
What percentages would you weigh the Qualifying Quiz, the application, personal statement and recommendations be on the final outcome?
What percentages would you weigh the Qualifying Quiz, the application, personal statement and recommendations be on the final outcome?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:46:20
That's internal admissions committee politics. Let me just say: every component counts, but the Quiz is the central piece, so that's where we recommend you start.
That's internal admissions committee politics.
Let me just say: every component counts, but the Quiz is the central piece, so that's where we recommend you start.
spmath123
2016-03-15 20:46:24
is this for mosp?
is this for mosp?
roed
2016-03-15 20:46:55
Nope, it's not aimed at mosp
Nope, it's not aimed at mosp
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:47:14
@epiclucario: Some students have done things like this in the past. We generally encourage students to only push themselves as hard as they want to; you're not doing camp wrong if you decide to drop a class in order to socialize more!
@epiclucario: Some students have done things like this in the past. We generally encourage students to only push themselves as hard as they want to; you're not doing camp wrong if you decide to drop a class in order to socialize more!
epiclucario
2016-03-15 20:47:20
If one were to do 3 or 4 Mathcamp classes a week, would they still have time for an AoPS class and time to socialize?
If one were to do 3 or 4 Mathcamp classes a week, would they still have time for an AoPS class and time to socialize?
eveningstarandlion
2016-03-15 20:48:04
How would you compare this camp to, say, the one in MIT?
How would you compare this camp to, say, the one in MIT?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:48:08
You mean RSI? Mathcamp is broader in focus. At RSI, you work on a research project. At Mathcamp, you *can* work on a research project, but you can also do lots of other (academic and non-academic) things.
You mean RSI? Mathcamp is broader in focus. At RSI, you work on a research project. At Mathcamp, you *can* work on a research project, but you can also do lots of other (academic and non-academic) things.
macandcheese
2016-03-15 20:48:09
if you aren't sure whether you can go this year (for reasons outside of our control), could we still apply?
if you aren't sure whether you can go this year (for reasons outside of our control), could we still apply?
roed
2016-03-15 20:48:14
Yes
Yes
pkd
2016-03-15 20:48:18
how many people grade / evaluate each quiz? just one, or more?
how many people grade / evaluate each quiz? just one, or more?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:48:20
It's a big committee.
It's a big committee.
Sciencewhiz
2016-03-15 20:48:48
How many students do you accept
How many students do you accept
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:48:50
We typically admit about 75 new students per year.
We typically admit about 75 new students per year.
IsabeltheCat
2016-03-15 20:49:18
Freya/15/CA: How is the homework structured? (e.g. PSets, class overleaf document, etc.) Do the classes have exams?
Freya/15/CA: How is the homework structured? (e.g. PSets, class overleaf document, etc.) Do the classes have exams?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:49:20
@Freya: Most classes will hand out an optional homework set in paper each day in class. After classes end for the day, there's a two hour period called TAU where all of the instructors hold office hours. Lots of students camp out near a few of their teachers and work on the problem sets with other students for most of this time.
@Freya: Most classes will hand out an optional homework set in paper each day in class. After classes end for the day, there's a two hour period called TAU where all of the instructors hold office hours. Lots of students camp out near a few of their teachers and work on the problem sets with other students for most of this time.
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:49:32
There are no exams at Mathcamp
There are no exams at Mathcamp
AMN300
2016-03-15 20:50:06
How much higher math (like group theory, lin. alg) would the 'average' mathcamp student know (for taking the courses)?
How much higher math (like group theory, lin. alg) would the 'average' mathcamp student know (for taking the courses)?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:50:08
Very few classes, if any, will collect and grade homework assignments
Very few classes, if any, will collect and grade homework assignments
roed
2016-03-15 20:50:08
I would say that most students don't come in knowing group theory or linear algebra, but most alums will have some exposure to them (and some new students as well). There will be classes on both group theory and linear algebra at camp.
I would say that most students don't come in knowing group theory or linear algebra, but most alums will have some exposure to them (and some new students as well). There will be classes on both group theory and linear algebra at camp.
pierre11134
2016-03-15 20:50:25
So 15% of new students get in?
So 15% of new students get in?
Royalreter1
2016-03-15 20:50:25
On the application, it says "(We give returning applicants special consideration.)" Does that mean those that apply one year but get rejected have a better chance the next year?
On the application, it says "(We give returning applicants special consideration.)" Does that mean those that apply one year but get rejected have a better chance the next year?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:50:30
Yes! Applying to Mathcamp takes a lot of time and persistence; applying twice, doubly so. We're always impressed when people apply more than once. People do sometimes get in on their second or third try, and I'm always excited when that happens.
Yes! Applying to Mathcamp takes a lot of time and persistence; applying twice, doubly so. We're always impressed when people apply more than once. People do sometimes get in on their second or third try, and I'm always excited when that happens.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:50:34
@pierre: approximately.
@pierre: approximately.
pkd
2016-03-15 20:50:50
how can a committee grade a quiz? do you project the solution on a projector with the committee looking at it together?
how can a committee grade a quiz? do you project the solution on a projector with the committee looking at it together?
epiclucario
2016-03-15 20:51:02
Do Mathcampers ever get homesick over the 5 weeks? That's a long time
Do Mathcampers ever get homesick over the 5 weeks? That's a long time
ygorlina
2016-03-15 20:51:04
Some people do get homesick. I personally got "campsick" when I got home after my first Mathcamp.
Some people do get homesick. I personally got "campsick" when I got home after my first Mathcamp.
roed
2016-03-15 20:51:05
We grade it individually a number of times, then talk about it afterward.
We grade it individually a number of times, then talk about it afterward.
jf57
2016-03-15 20:51:15
If we get accepted into this camp, by what date would you want confirmation that we can attend (ex. if we applied to both this camp and HCSSiM)
If we get accepted into this camp, by what date would you want confirmation that we can attend (ex. if we applied to both this camp and HCSSiM)
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:51:19
May 20th is the registration deadline (for students admitted during both early and regular seasons).
May 20th is the registration deadline (for students admitted during both early and regular seasons).
pkd
2016-03-15 20:51:27
Or is it that one person looks at a particular problem for multiple quiz submissions? something like USAMTS grading?
Or is it that one person looks at a particular problem for multiple quiz submissions? something like USAMTS grading?
roed
2016-03-15 20:51:40
Yes, this too. Each person grading will focus on one problem at a time.
Yes, this too. Each person grading will focus on one problem at a time.
nasmith99
2016-03-15 20:51:48
Would you say that Mathcamp is more or less selective than PROMYS?
Would you say that Mathcamp is more or less selective than PROMYS?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:51:51
I don't know what PROMYS's admission rate is right now, actually.
I don't know what PROMYS's admission rate is right now, actually.
hliu70
2016-03-15 20:52:09
If someone doesn't go, do you give admission to the next person in line?
If someone doesn't go, do you give admission to the next person in line?
W.Sun
2016-03-15 20:52:11
What level is this math camp? Is it like AIME level, AMC 10 level, USA(J)MO Level, or USAMO level?
What level is this math camp? Is it like AIME level, AMC 10 level, USA(J)MO Level, or USAMO level?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:52:11
It's a little more complicated than that - the waitlist isn't ordered. We're looking at the whole composition of the student body when selecting students.
It's a little more complicated than that - the waitlist isn't ordered. We're looking at the whole composition of the student body when selecting students.
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:52:13
@WSun: There are problem solving classes, which vary in scope, but most of the classes at Mathcamp are focused on theory-building rather than solving contest problems.
@WSun: There are problem solving classes, which vary in scope, but most of the classes at Mathcamp are focused on theory-building rather than solving contest problems.
Eulersbestfriend271
2016-03-15 20:52:41
So in my application, is there some place where I can say that since I was in the top 30 males in USAMTS, I do not have to work on the "Quiz Solutions" part of my application?
So in my application, is there some place where I can say that since I was in the top 30 males in USAMTS, I do not have to work on the "Quiz Solutions" part of my application?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:52:44
No, that's not true: no matter how you did on USAMTS, you have to do the Quiz if you want to come to Mathcamp.
No, that's not true: no matter how you did on USAMTS, you have to do the Quiz if you want to come to Mathcamp.
AMN300
2016-03-15 20:52:53
August/16/WA: Can you give us detail about the research project we *could* do at mathcamp?
August/16/WA: Can you give us detail about the research project we *could* do at mathcamp?
roed
2016-03-15 20:53:04
See http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/ProjectBlurbs.pdf for the projects that were proposed last year.
See http://www.mathcamp.org/2015/academics/ProjectBlurbs.pdf for the projects that were proposed last year.
addisonzxy
2016-03-15 20:53:29
Are there any math assessments, competitions and contests during the camp besides the Sunday relays?
Are there any math assessments, competitions and contests during the camp besides the Sunday relays?
AWCMABMV1
2016-03-15 20:53:34
i heard that some people who made at least significant progress on all the problems got rejected last year. is this true?
i heard that some people who made at least significant progress on all the problems got rejected last year. is this true?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:53:39
Alas, we end up having to turn away lots of great students - there are way more talented applicants than we have spots for!
Alas, we end up having to turn away lots of great students - there are way more talented applicants than we have spots for!
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:53:49
@addisonxyz: There's also an Olympiad style team contest every wednesday
@addisonxyz: There's also an Olympiad style team contest every wednesday
Longhair343
2016-03-15 20:54:13
@addisonzxy Also, there's puzzle hunt
@addisonzxy Also, there's puzzle hunt
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:54:16
True!
True!
alchemis80
2016-03-15 20:54:25
What speed is the math in Mathcamp done at?(e.g. fast-paced, slow-paced)
What speed is the math in Mathcamp done at?(e.g. fast-paced, slow-paced)
stitch_lover
2016-03-15 20:54:46
is admission need blind?
is admission need blind?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:54:47
For domestic applicants, yes.
For domestic applicants, yes.
roed
2016-03-15 20:54:49
Classes have chili ratings, which are based on a mix of pace and level of mathematical experience we expect.
Classes have chili ratings, which are based on a mix of pace and level of mathematical experience we expect.
chelopiano
2016-03-15 20:55:20
When does the camp start?
When does the camp start?
roed
2016-03-15 20:55:24
July 3
July 3
ilikepie2003
2016-03-15 20:55:42
does the food contain chili?
does the food contain chili?
roed
2016-03-15 20:55:46
Some.
Some.
chelopiano
2016-03-15 20:55:48
Can you order pizza?
Can you order pizza?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:55:52
Yes.
Yes.
ilikepie2003
2016-03-15 20:56:03
is there an ice rink for skaters to practice on?
is there an ice rink for skaters to practice on?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:56:05
Maybe as a field trip!
Maybe as a field trip!
roed
2016-03-15 20:56:08
But chili ratings are just a measure of pace for each class, not based on actual spiciness.
But chili ratings are just a measure of pace for each class, not based on actual spiciness.
crcrt
2016-03-15 20:56:14
is there ping pong there?
is there ping pong there?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:56:16
Yes.
Yes.
eveningstarandlion
2016-03-15 20:56:17
Is there any required level of mathematical understanding or do you just have to be within 7th-12th grade?
Is there any required level of mathematical understanding or do you just have to be within 7th-12th grade?
Anonymous
2016-03-15 20:56:17
do we have to pay for pizza?
do we have to pay for pizza?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:56:19
The only mathematical requirement is to do well on the Qualifying Quiz.
The only mathematical requirement is to do well on the Qualifying Quiz.
roed
2016-03-15 20:56:33
@Anonymous, yes, unless it's coming back from a hike where we miss dinner.
@Anonymous, yes, unless it's coming back from a hike where we miss dinner.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:56:40
Ah - that, plus Precalculus.
Ah - that, plus Precalculus.
roed
2016-03-15 20:56:45
Oh yeah, we go hiking most weekends.
Oh yeah, we go hiking most weekends.
crcrt
2016-03-15 20:56:55
and chess?
and chess?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:56:58
Yes!
Yes!
jyanyp15
2016-03-15 20:57:04
Ahhh contra dancing.... That's an interesting ride.
Ahhh contra dancing.... That's an interesting ride.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:57:07
That, too.
That, too.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:57:15
Here's one for the alums:
Here's one for the alums:
bearytasty
2016-03-15 20:57:18
what was ur most memorable event/activity at mathcamp? (just curious )
what was ur most memorable event/activity at mathcamp? (just curious
)
ygorlina
2016-03-15 20:57:34
whitewater rafting
whitewater rafting
Niuniu01
2016-03-15 20:57:40
is there an available pool?
is there an available pool?
roed
2016-03-15 20:57:54
Yes, there's usually a pool available at some hours.
Yes, there's usually a pool available at some hours.
stitch_lover
2016-03-15 20:58:03
question, which airport should we travel there?
question, which airport should we travel there?
moowoof
2016-03-15 20:58:10
Is there a lot mosquito there?
Is there a lot mosquito there?
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:58:10
See http://www.mathcamp.org/parents/arrivalsanddepartures.php for travel info.
See http://www.mathcamp.org/parents/arrivalsanddepartures.php for travel info.
roed
2016-03-15 20:58:33
@moowoof, there are some, but not as bad as Minnesota or Alaska.
@moowoof, there are some, but not as bad as Minnesota or Alaska.
room456
2016-03-15 20:58:37
what is the temperature usually like during the 5 weeks?
what is the temperature usually like during the 5 weeks?
math1012
2016-03-15 20:58:39
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the help!
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:58:39
It's very pleasant, actually - usually 70s - 80s during the day, cool at night.
It's very pleasant, actually - usually 70s - 80s during the day, cool at night.
beanielove2
2016-03-15 20:58:50
A serious question here: Is the food specifically marked "gluten-free?" I got nailed last summer at a weekend summer camp because the breakfast sausages had gluten binders in them.
A serious question here: Is the food specifically marked "gluten-free?" I got nailed last summer at a weekend summer camp because the breakfast sausages had gluten binders in them.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:58:55
YES. We're very careful about this.
YES. We're very careful about this.
AlanDu
2016-03-15 20:59:03
Will there be a store to buy food, drinks, or everyday items?
Will there be a store to buy food, drinks, or everyday items?
Wiggle Wam
2016-03-15 20:59:03
Probably when we had to pretend to be cats to get problems.
Probably when we had to pretend to be cats to get problems.
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:59:06
Yes.
Yes.
xueenwu
2016-03-15 20:59:37
what if you've attended mathpath
what if you've attended mathpath
MarisaD
2016-03-15 20:59:39
There are lots of MathPath alums around. You'll see some familiar faces.
There are lots of MathPath alums around. You'll see some familiar faces.
sohappy
2016-03-15 20:59:41
What do we do the most there?
What do we do the most there?
alchemis80
2016-03-15 20:59:42
Where is Mathcamp held?
Where is Mathcamp held?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:59:43
@sohappy: The only thing that *everybody* does a lot of at camp is math, but people also do lots of other fun things, like playing sports, board games, going off-campus, etc. You have a lot of personal freedom in deciding how you want to spend your time.
@sohappy: The only thing that *everybody* does a lot of at camp is math, but people also do lots of other fun things, like playing sports, board games, going off-campus, etc. You have a lot of personal freedom in deciding how you want to spend your time.
jyanyp15
2016-03-15 20:59:52
Is it possible to become a JC at Mathcamp even if you don't attend as a camper?
Is it possible to become a JC at Mathcamp even if you don't attend as a camper?
khanh93
2016-03-15 20:59:53
No.
No.
roed
2016-03-15 20:59:54
Mathcamp's at Colby College in Maine this summer
Mathcamp's at Colby College in Maine this summer
MarisaD
2016-03-15 21:00:11
...but if you go to math grad school later, you can become a Mentor!
...but if you go to math grad school later, you can become a Mentor!
MarisaD
2016-03-15 21:00:25
Okay, everybody - time to wrap up. Thanks for spending your evening with us! Lots of great questions.
Okay, everybody - time to wrap up. Thanks for spending your evening with us! Lots of great questions.
alchemis80
2016-03-15 21:00:28
Okay, thanks!
Okay, thanks!
MarisaD
2016-03-15 21:00:33
If we didn't get to your question, feel free to email admissions16@mathcamp.org and we'll be happy to continue the conversation. (You can also post questions in the Mathcamp forum here on AoPS, at http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/community/c135_mathcamp - the Mathcamp staff will post replies, and you'll get student opinions, too!
If we didn't get to your question, feel free to email admissions16@mathcamp.org and we'll be happy to continue the conversation. (You can also post questions in the Mathcamp forum here on AoPS, at http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/community/c135_mathcamp - the Mathcamp staff will post replies, and you'll get student opinions, too!
jyanyp15
2016-03-15 21:00:42
Thank you!!!
Thank you!!!
WL0410
2016-03-15 21:00:42
Thanks!
Thanks!
haloyo
2016-03-15 21:00:47
Thank you for the math jam
Thank you for the math jam
AMN300
2016-03-15 21:00:48
Thank you very much!
Thank you very much!
mathmaster2012
2016-03-15 21:00:48
thanks
thanks
yayups
2016-03-15 21:01:04
thanks
thanks
pkd
2016-03-15 21:01:04
Thank you!
Thank you!
jf57
2016-03-15 21:01:04
Thank you!!!!!!!
Thank you!!!!!!!
roed
2016-03-15 21:01:08
Looking forward to meeting some of you this summer!
Looking forward to meeting some of you this summer!
ilikepie2003
2016-03-15 21:01:24
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME! I'm sure that you taste better than Smoked Gouda cheese from Costco.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME! I'm sure that you taste better than Smoked Gouda cheese from Costco.
EsJay991
2016-03-15 21:01:30
16/NB: Thank you!
16/NB: Thank you!
eveningstarandlion
2016-03-15 21:01:39
THank you!
THank you!
epiclucario
2016-03-15 21:01:39
Hope to see you there! ;)
Hope to see you there! ;)
Meimeijy
2016-03-15 21:01:39
bye!
bye!
bearytasty
2016-03-15 21:01:41
THANKS!!!
THANKS!!!
LauraZed
2016-03-15 21:01:57
Thank you all for joining us, and a big thanks to Marisa, Jalex, Yulia, and David!
Thank you all for joining us, and a big thanks to Marisa, Jalex, Yulia, and David!
MarisaD
2016-03-15 21:01:58
Thanks again, everybody - good night!
Thanks again, everybody - good night!
ilikepie2003
2016-03-15 21:02:01
uh... do we leave?
uh... do we leave?
happiface
2016-03-15 21:02:03
yay you all should come to mathcamp! i went in 2015 and it was great
yay you all should come to mathcamp! i went in 2015 and it was great
pi37
2016-03-15 21:02:06
everyone go to mathcamp!
everyone go to mathcamp!
roed
2016-03-15 21:02:07
Yeah, we're done.
Yeah, we're done.
Math_Wiz_3.14
2016-03-15 21:02:16
BYE!
BYE!
SS00090
2016-03-15 21:02:21
bye
bye
LauraZed
2016-03-15 21:02:26
In case you missed/forgot the link – if you're interested in applying for Mathcamp, you can find the qualifying quiz for Mathcamp at www.mathcamp.org/quiz
In case you missed/forgot the link – if you're interested in applying for Mathcamp, you can find the qualifying quiz for Mathcamp at www.mathcamp.org/quiz
LauraZed
2016-03-15 21:02:51
If you have further questions for Mathcamp, you can contact them via the email address above (admissions16@mathcamp.org) or at www.mathcamp.org/contact.php.
If you have further questions for Mathcamp, you can contact them via the email address above (admissions16@mathcamp.org) or at www.mathcamp.org/contact.php.
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